This section in the user manual uses a real example (RH form) and discusses the various alternatives of data element + category representation and the consequences of these.
http://www.dhis2.org/doc/snapshot/en/user/html/ch21s08.html Ola ------ ---------------------------------- Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr) HISP Department of Informatics University of Oslo Mobile: +47 48069736 Home address: Vetlandsvn. 95B, 0685 Oslo, Norway. Googlemaps link<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Vetlandsvn.+95B,+0685+Oslo,+Norway> On 9 November 2011 11:54, Murod Latifov <mlati...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Abyot, > > Very interesting, but it seems to me more of levels or categories of the > same dimention, not a multidimentionality. Combination of data elements and > categories are instances of the same dimention or levels of hierarchy as it > comes in data warehouse cube definition. Moreover its representation in > datavalue table (fact table) with two keys is ambigious. DHIS2 has the > following dimentions: data elements, periods and organisation units and > data could be analysed from different angles of these dimentions. > > regards, > murod > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Abyot Gizaw <aby...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Jason Pickering < >> jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> As far as I can see there is no difference other than a visual element >>> of presentation. >>> >> >> Yes with the example we mentioned there might not be a difference if we >> are only interested in the value. But I thought the two are different in >> the sense that those in the row are dataelements and those in the column >> are optioncombinations. I thought what we choose to be a dataelement and a >> dimension affects our subsequent data analysis including indicator >> definition. I remember encountering a case previously, but I couldn't >> remember it. >> >> The current model has no sense of hierarchy, but is merely the Cartesian >>> product of possible category options. >>> >> >> That is true. Currently we are using only the final product (or the last >> level in the hierarchy) which is the option combination. But the whole idea >> with the multidimensional is to kind of slice the aggregate figure from >> different perspectives and corresponding units. Given a total figure of >> 100, say for example those who have TB, how many of them are male, how many >> are female. Out of those who are male, how many of them fall under a >> particular age category, similarly for those who are female..... >> >> But we are not utilizing the full potential of *dimension *and *unit >> *conceptualization >> of the multidimensional. We only use the final optioncombination. I always >> think the possibility of allowing data collection and analysis at any >> category or option level - not only optioncombination. But a problem I have >> is, if we allow that it will really be a mess with lots of overlaps ! >> >> >>> What you present here seems to me to be completely equivalent in DHIS2 >>> unless I am misinterpreting the model, which is very possible. >>> >> >> >>> On Nov 8, 2011 7:17 PM, "Abyot Gizaw" <aby...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> Thank you Jason and Kamugunga! >>>> >>>> I just wanted to see how the multidimensional is used. Because there >>>> are some tricky cases where one can design a particular data collection >>>> form as >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *D* >>>> >>>> *E* >>>> >>>> *A* >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> *B* >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> *C* >>>> >>>> Value >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> and others as >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *A* >>>> >>>> *B* >>>> >>>> *C* >>>> >>>> *D* >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> *E* >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> value >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> so what I am interested to know is what are the merits and demerits >>>> between the two? Is this because the model (I mean the multidimensional >>>> design) is flexible or confusing one that that kept everything open? >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Abyot. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Kamugunga Adolphe <kaa...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> Can this help? >>>>> >>>>> *Diagnosis* >>>>> >>>>> *Under 5 years* >>>>> >>>>> *5 yrs and above* >>>>> >>>>> M >>>>> >>>>> F >>>>> >>>>> M >>>>> >>>>> F >>>>> >>>>> Diarrhoea with Dehydration >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Diarrhoea bloody >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Diarrhoea Chronic >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Intestinal parasites >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Malaria confirmed simple >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Malaria confirmed simple, in pregnancy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Adolphe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8 November 2011 14:38, Jason Pickering <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Abyot, >>>>>> Not sure if I understand your question, but this is a very typical >>>>>> one for many HIV related data elements. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Male* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Female* >>>>>> >>>>>> *<1* >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> *1-15* >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> *15+* >>>>>> >>>>>> Value >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> However, I am not sure what the difference between this is? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *<1* >>>>>> >>>>>> *1-15* >>>>>> >>>>>> *15+* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Male* >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> *Female* >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> value >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Jason >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Abyot Gizaw <aby...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can any one provide me an example, possibly from your implementation >>>>>>> experience, on the use of multidimensional dataelement where there >>>>>>> exists a >>>>>>> possibility of using a "dataelement" as dataelement or dimension >>>>>>> (option-combination) for example as shown below? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *D* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *E* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *A* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *B* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *C* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *A* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *B* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *C* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *D* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *E* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> value >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Abyot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>>>>>> Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>>>>> Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >> Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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