Hi and yes - while it does not really make sense to change our current LGPL license since DHIS 1.x is being phased out in any case, I think HISP-SA should/will largely use the same licenses as HISP-UiO for the future. Conceptually, there's no significant difference from what I can see.
Regards Calle On 2 November 2014 15:07, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bob/Than, > > A bit amusing that you do find stuff like that. probably just reflect that > different people think differently, and that we have never had a > lawyer-type going through all of it and streamline. > > Conceptually, my understanding has always been that all our software and > materials are free for people to download, re-distribute, and modify - as > long as the original license etc follows it, and as long as people are not > ABUSING it for commercial gain (as in selling the software to somebody who > does not know it's FOSS - strange, but that kind of thing CAN happen just > like e.g. a student or an author might copycat materials and present them > as his/her own). > > That said, my (limited) understanding of the law is that in order for you > to enforce such a license, you HAVE to establish COPYRIGHT over said > software and materials. So you are basically saying that "this > software/materials is OUR copyright because we have developed them - and we > choose to allow anybody to download them, use them, re-distribute them, and > use them for further development" > > Conceptually very similar to the historic standards for any scientific > publication - all use are encouraged EXCEPT that of copy-cat-ing > (presenting it as your own), including attempting to disprove the content. > > Regards > Calle > > On 2 November 2014 14:35, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolli...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Calle >> >> Thanks for clarification. >> >> But I think maybe you still could fix this on the terms of use page on >> the website, which doesn't indicate anything about LGPL at all. It seems >> to me that you could change those terms to apply to the non-software >> materials on the website, if that is really your intent. Again something >> like a creative commons licence might be easier than making up all these >> terms yourselves. Then maybe just indicate the software licence(s) on the >> downloads page. This would be clearer. >> >> We have all our (dhis2.org) documentation released under a GNU Free >> documentation licence. >> >> Ahhhhhhh. I just noticed that the dhis2.org also has exactly the same >> dreaded "terms of use" page : https://www.dhis2.org/termsofuse. Have no >> idea where that came from. That is confusing and should be changed. >> >> Bob >> >> On 1 November 2014 21:08, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We've always used the so called "Lesser GPL" license for 1.x version of >>> the DHIS - this also allows any type of derivate software (including >>> commercial ones) AS LONG AS THE ORIGINAL SOFTWARE REMAIN FOSS AND THE >>> ORIGINAL SOFTWARE IS PACKAGED WITH THE LICENSE. >>> >>> So the reference to "cannot be used for commercial purposes" refers to >>> the original software, not significant derivatives. We've never had a >>> problem with any commercial entity trying to "hi-jack" the software, >>> though, and I think it is a very unlikely scenario - and even less likely >>> with DHIS2 because by now every potential customer/user knows it's FOSS. >>> >>> What IS possible at some stage is that a commercial software company >>> would develop some sophisticated add-on package and sell that - we've seen >>> a number of those with e.g. PostgreSQL, for instance. And we don't have a >>> problem with that. >>> >>> Regards >>> Calle >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1 November 2014 18:41, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Agree this is a bit confusing. I am assuming you read this here: >>>> http://hisp.org/html/policies.htm#terms >>>> >>>> This is actually the HISP South Africa web site and it looks like these >>>> are conditions which they are applying to the dhis 1.4 software. Given >>>> that they now also support v2 they should really update this. I think it >>>> reflects some previous reality. >>>> >>>> It has no effect on the dhis2 software which you download from >>>> dhis2.org. >>>> >>>> On 1 November 2014 16:22, Ngoc Thanh Nguyen < >>>> thanh.hispviet...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> DHIS2 is licensed as BSD which means that one can customize, >>>>> redistribute, and use it for any purposes (commercial or non-commercial) >>>>> given that the BSD copyright text are retained. >>>>> >>>>> However, in HISP website it says that materials (include software) on >>>>> the website can not be used for commercial or non-commercial purpose. >>>>> >>>>> Is it a conflict? >>>>> >>>>> 2. Use License >>>>> >>>>> a. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the >>>>> materials (information or software) on HISP's web site for personal, >>>>> non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, >>>>> not >>>>> a transfer of title, and under this license you may not: >>>>> >>>>> - modify or copy the materials; >>>>> - use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public >>>>> display (commercial or non-commercial); >>>>> - attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained >>>>> on HISP's web site; >>>>> - remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the >>>>> materials; or >>>>> - transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the >>>>> materials on any other server. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>>>> Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>>> Post to : dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ******************************************* >>> >>> Calle Hedberg >>> >>> 46D Alma Road, 7700 Rosebank, SOUTH AFRICA >>> >>> Tel/fax (home): +27-21-685-6472 >>> >>> Cell: +27-82-853-5352 >>> >>> Iridium SatPhone: +8816-315-19274 >>> >>> Email: calle.hedb...@gmail.com >>> >>> Skype: calle_hedberg >>> >>> ******************************************* >>> >>> >> > > > -- > > ******************************************* > > Calle Hedberg > > 46D Alma Road, 7700 Rosebank, SOUTH AFRICA > > Tel/fax (home): +27-21-685-6472 > > Cell: +27-82-853-5352 > > Iridium SatPhone: +8816-315-19274 > > Email: calle.hedb...@gmail.com > > Skype: calle_hedberg > > ******************************************* > > -- ******************************************* Calle Hedberg 46D Alma Road, 7700 Rosebank, SOUTH AFRICA Tel/fax (home): +27-21-685-6472 Cell: +27-82-853-5352 Iridium SatPhone: +8816-315-19274 Email: calle.hedb...@gmail.com Skype: calle_hedberg *******************************************
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