Dear Deepali, Thanks. Now I see the complexity. Even if you used relationship in programs e.g program is related to a goal, a goal program is related objectives and objective program is related to outcome and so on would be complex to implement.
However, I had tried to use this relationship thing in programs for tracking projects where a project has consultants and consultants have tasks and tasks have resources attached to them ....... but I didnt finish with since it was a concept for demonstrating a use case. May be I should touch base on it and we share experiences. Alex On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Dipali Sahu <dipali.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alex > > We did consider using the Tracker. I am sure there must be a way, 2 > important challenges we faced were: > > - We can set up a project as a program in Tracker. But, how do we get > the levels in the results framework, for example a project logframe has > Goal, Each goal can have multiple objectives under it, and each Objective > can have multiple outcomes, Outcome can have multiple outputs and Output > can have multiple indicators. Logframe structure is flexible and different > for different donor/project. > - Calculating achievement, where achievement= indicator value/Target > *100. We made targets as datasets. There fore, if we use tracker, the > numerator can come from Program indicator but denominator is in Aggregated > part (in datasets). > > Thank you > Deepali > International Medical Corps > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Alex Tumwesigye <atumwesi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Dipali, >> >> Thanks for sharing.It looks like you tried out the Aggregate module, did >> you attempt to see if the tracker could do this? If a project is seen as a >> program, then you track it, just thinking....... >> >> Alex >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Dipali Sahu <dipali.s...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Two questions: >>> >>> 1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing >>> through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community? I >>> would say it will be challenging, because typically Results framework can >>> have multiple levels and typically are flexible in design unless the user >>> is deciding on a fixed format.. We actually faced issues with this, some of >>> them given below: >>> >>> - Project was created as "Org unit group" >> this led to projects >>> list show up in pivot table and other places within org unit. >>> - Outcomes and objectives which are levels of the results framework >>> and have group of indicators under them were made as Data indicator >>> groups. >>> Again these started showing up in pivot tables etc. >>> - Major issue was, one indicator can be mapped to multiple projects. >>> For example, Number of consultations provided is an indicator under all >>> projects. Therefore, one indicator has multiple targets, baselines, >>> source >>> of verification etc (for different projects).Creating new indicator for >>> each new project was a complete no-no for us. >>> - Handling targets was difficult because, target for a certain >>> indicator and certain project is valid for the project lifetime. Now, >>> projects can have any start and end dates, therefore, target datasets had >>> to me made monthly. >>> - generating a valid logframe report, when different indicators >>> belonged to different org unit. We had logframe where different levels >>> belonged to different org units. for example, Objective A is for Org unit >>> A, and Objectve B is for org unit 2.Here, the user had no options other >>> than choosing the right org unit from a selection window, again and again >>> for different indicators. >>> >>> >>> 2. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something >>> that you could share to the community? I am not sure at this moment, >>> but ours is very specific to our needs and is not generic. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw <ab...@dhis2.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Depali, >>>> >>>> Thank you for sharing your experience. >>>> >>>> Two questions: >>>> >>>> 1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the >>>> thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community? >>>> >>>> 2. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something >>>> that you could share to the community? >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Thank you, >>>> Abyot. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Dipali Sahu <dipali.s...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Abyot >>>>> >>>>> I had worked with DHIS2 in the Agriculture sector. I would say more or >>>>> less , with customization we could fulfill the requirements. >>>>> >>>>> At present, I with my team are *particularly working on Results >>>>> Framework which has logical framework* having goals, outcome, outputs >>>>> , indicators etc. We tried to build the module within DHIS in phase 1 and >>>>> we were successsfulyl able to monitor project's results framework.But over >>>>> time, the requirements came out to be really complicated and elaborate >>>>> because results framework doesn't just have a list of indicators but the >>>>> logical relationship between various level of the logframe helping in >>>>> overall project monitoring. >>>>> >>>>> Therefore, now we are building the module outside DHIS where we are >>>>> developing a project logframe structure page (we are calling this as >>>>> Project Management app) which can call indicator values from DHIS. Each >>>>> indicator has a few attributes like type; baseline value, source of >>>>> verification etc. Similarly project has attributes like start & end dates, >>>>> donor, area of operation, total budget, sub-grants etc. We are calling >>>>> this >>>>> module as Project management module. >>>>> >>>>> I hope, this info is of some use >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Deepali >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw <ab...@dhis2.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in >>>>>> Agriculture sector? >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information >>>>>> system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are >>>>>> interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal >>>>>> with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame >>>>>> analysis. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for sharing. >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Abyot. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>>>>> Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>> Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alex Tumwesigye >> >> Technical Advisor - DHIS2 (Consultant), >> Ministry of Health/AFENET >> Kampala >> Uganda >> +256 774149 775, + 256 759 800161 >> Skype ID: talexie >> >> IT Consultant (Servers, Networks and Security, Health Information Systems >> - DHIS2, Disease Outbreak & Surveillance Systems) & Solar Consultant >> >> >> "I don't want to be anything other than what I have been - one tree hill " >> > > -- Alex Tumwesigye Technical Advisor - DHIS2 (Consultant), Ministry of Health/AFENET Kampala Uganda +256 774149 775, + 256 759 800161 Skype ID: talexie IT Consultant (Servers, Networks and Security, Health Information Systems - DHIS2, Disease Outbreak & Surveillance Systems) & Solar Consultant "I don't want to be anything other than what I have been - one tree hill "
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