> > > On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 00:40, Alan Horkan wrote: > > > > Dia had a document menubar long before other programs did, [...] > > > > > > Didn't know this. :) Just tried it. But don't understand why the context > > > version of the menu is disabled when the menu bar is activated. > > > > Dia also has a "middle click" context menu which really sucks if you have > > only two buttons on your mouse. The middle click context menu is > > accessible by right clicking when the menubar is enable. > > > > In the long run just about everything should be accessible without needing > > to resort to a context menu (I might even go so far as to want to make Dia > > usable without a mouse/pointing device but that would probably be a bit > > much). For the moment it is unfortunately necessary. > > I'd rather say that the context menus should be accessible to non-mouse > users.
Ctrl+F10 I think is supposed to provide access from the keyboard, I really should learn more about the Accessiblity toolkit (ATK) and do some testing. > In case you haven't noticed, context menus have become more an > more common, as they really put the info in, well, context. I'd like to > see more, such as more context help. The 'right-click' menu as the Gimp and Dia by default provides is not a 'context menu' as it does not do anything context specific. The middle click menu can be useful (althought middle clicking using a wheel mouse is awkward) and is more like a real context menu. The Macintosh is very careful to make sure it is possible to do things without ever needing to use a context menu but it has recently started putting things in context menus to allow things to be done with far less clicks so that it acts as a bonus for experienced users without hiding things completely. (Even if you have a single button mouse on a Mac you can get at all the context menus by ctrl+clicking). Sodipodi had an interesting combination of the both using part of the menu for contextual items and the rest for all the standard menu items. I did not use it long enough to be able to decide if it was a good idea. The case in point for me would be Flip Horizontal and Flip Vertical which although useful in context I believe should also be in the Object menu. (They were not included there because they only work for shapes but not programmed objects but I still believe they should be there and it might even serve as an incentive for someone to make the programmed objects flippable). The only other context menu item I can remember wanting to use was adding nodes to polygons/beziergons or lines. That could be fixed by allow more of these kinds of options to be set as default properties of the drawing tool or perhaps having a seperate 'node edit' tool like Inkscape has (or maybe just allowing ctrl+click to add nodes). - Alan _______________________________________________ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia
