On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 02:46, Alan Horkan wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Lars Clausen wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 01:00, Alan Horkan wrote: > > > Layers a lot with the Gimp, I wrote scripts to provide New Layer from > > > Cut/Copy that I'm rather proud of which make it very quick and easy to > > > create a new layer. Also Inkscape is working towards > > > adding Layers like functionality and I took a closer look at Adobe > > > Illustrator. > > > > Nifty, aren't they? > > I also need to take a look at getting changing the label, having numbers > on the layer names would be nice (but no # or [] or other junk). Also > 'New' just takes up space, a New Layer ceases to be New as soon as you > have created it. > > Layer 4 > Layer 3 > Layer 2 > Layer 1 > Background > > Not difficult, just something I've wanted for a while.
Good idea. > > > I think more people would appreciate the Layers features if they had > > > menu items, making them more discoverable and allow them to have > > > convenient keybindings. "money for old rope". > > > > The menu bar is getting awfully wide already. > > I'll double check but I think the menubar is still narrow enough to fit on > small crappy displays, and as someone who long suffered it is something I > try to be careful about. > > "Input Methods" is a two word menu item and when you have the menu bar on > the items in it still disappear. I was hoping that it would be going away > soon. I think (but I'm not sure) that it should go away with the input method overhaul. > > Or are you suggesting a context menu in the Layers dialog? > > No, I think that a context menu in the Layers dialog would be a hideous > abomination. It would be undiscoverable (to all but those who randomly > right click all over the place, have read the documentation in great > detail, or have used another application that has implemented such > unpleasantness). Such as, oh, Windows 2000+ or Mac or > I dont particularly like having a Layers dialog/palette open on screen, I > prefer to work with it as a transative dialog. Providing a convenient top > level menu for Layer items makes it much less necessary to keep a Layer > palette onscreen taking up space if you really dont want it there. > > The context menu in the Layers palette (as discussed previously more of a > right-click menu than an actual 'context' menu) in some other programs > particularly annoys me because it contains features not available from the > main menus (but it likely that will be corrected with the next menu > reorganisation). I agree with this. But it's easier to manipulate layers when you can just right-click them and select an action for that layer on the menu that's there, instead of left-clicking the layer then going to a menu in a different window and left-clicking there. I know context menus are harder to discover, but once you get the idea of their existence, you look for them everywhere and they make life easier. > > > (Alt+L is being used as shortcut for Tools/Line which would need to be > > > changed but I'm sure Dia will have single letter bindings again whenever > > > the text entry is overhauled). > > > > You'll notice that I have reserved Alt keybindings for the tools. I'd > > like to keep it that way. > > Yeah but things like Alt+F are needed to access the _File menu > Alt+E for the _Edit menu etc > > it is unfortunate that the text input prevents us from using single letter > bindings for the tools for now. Yes. Unfortunately, the input method overhaul is not trivial. Right now I'm looking at rotation instead, which I have mostly figured out, will just need to get the renderers to work with me. -Lars _______________________________________________ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia
