On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 15:17 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 09:54:06PM +0100, Lars Clausen wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 21:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > * sometimes setting or changing the accelerator key doesn't even work > > > (at least I have come across a few boxes where it didn't. I don't > > > know the reason for that, maybe some Gnome setting or something has > > > been deactivated) > > > > Specific boxes, or just randomly? Which ones? > > I'm not sure. I think one was a FreeBSD box and the other was running > Gentoo Linux. But I read in one of your later postings on this list, > that this is a GTK setting, that has to be turned on? Might be, that I > simply failed to figure out how to activate that setting.
That's very likely. It's not widely advertised. > > Alt shortcuts are actually bad, as they clash with the keyboard menu > > navigation, so I'm not going to add more of those. > > I can see your point. But wouldn't you agree, that not having a shortcut > for "Modify" is a major disadvantage of the default shortcut setting? > You can conviently switch to every standard tool, but then you can't > switch back! At least I found that to be a little bit frustrating, the > first time I started to use the shortcuts. The current CVS has Alt+N as Modify shortcut. > Maybe Control+M would be a compromise for Modify? Judging from your list > of used shortcuts, it's not taken and it also fits nicely for "Modify". > The only disadvantage would be, that it kind of stands out among all the > Alt+Something shortcuts for the other standard tools. But then again, > it's kind of a "special" standard tool anyway. :-) Actually, the space bar toggles between the modify tool and the previously selected tool. That's just not indicated on it. I've added a note in the tooltip to that effect. > > > A final thought goes to the property box of a shape: I think Alt+Enter > > > is usually expected to open up the property window. But I am not sure, > > > whether this setting would cause any problem. > > > > Can you give examples of other programs that use this? I wouldn't mind > > having one, and using one that people know from other places would be > > preferable. > > Now that I come to think of it, it seems to be more of a windows thing. > For example in the Explorer you can use Alt+Enter to open up the file > properties (and also on the desktop and other places). But I think > Konqueror also uses it for the property window and as far as I remember, > there are some places in Thunderbird where this convention is used. > I can just speak for myself, that I somehow intuitively assumed > Alt+Enter would open the property box, but I still think, it would be a > good choice as a default shortcut for that function. Actually, you win: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/input-keyboard.html#standard-shortcuts -Lars _______________________________________________ Dia-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia
