As a simple Dia user, that has used other similar programs, but not very often, I vote for: - simple click selects - Enter when selected enters edit mode - double click enters edit mode - simple click elsewhere exits edit mode - Esc exits edit mode - I would not advocate any "awkward" (=combination or F-keys) key bindings for such a simple task as entering/leaving text mode.
Lars Ruoff > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lars Clausen > Sent: vendredi 28 septembre 2007 17:47 > To: discussions about usage and development of dia > Subject: Re: Patch for Delete key behavior (for dia-0.96.1) > > On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 12:01 +0530, Sameer Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > My early experiences with computing were with CAD programs. > > > Pre-Windows there was AutoCad (DOS) and a number of UNIX based > > > systems. Heavy users of CAD, which has a very strong mouse or > > > stylus use component like Dia, would quickly find that > placing the > > > left hand on the keyboard and the right on the mouse and using as > > > many left hand keystroke shortcuts as possible was the > most productive manner of operating the programs. > > > > Hear! Hear! > > > > Allow me to hijack this and once again root for my personal > favourite > > combination: F2 and "second click" to enter text edit mode. > This has > > the additional plus point that it copies a well-known key-mapping, > > from Nautilus and Explorer. In terms of user interaction, I see no > > difference between a file icon and a text object ... their > appearance > > suggests the same interface for the related action of "editing text > > visible in that icon". This also does not interfere with > selecting an > > object by simply clicking on it. > > I have no problem with having F2 be one way to enter text > edit mode. My worry about "second click" is that it will be > problematic to double-click for properties without > accidentally entering text mode all the time, or vice-versa. > Hmm... Gnome HIG says that Alt-Enter should be the default > shortcut for Properties. F2 is supposed to be Rename which > works fine in some cases, when the text is a name, but a pure > text object doesn't have a name as such. "Enter" or "Space" > could also both reasonably be used for entering text mode, > since they don't conflict with anything else. If "Alt-Enter" > is Properties, then "Enter" would be fairly logical for > editing. "Enter" text and such... I think I'd rather have > that listed in the menu than F2. > > > To exit text edit mode, I would vote for Shift-Esc as well > as clicking > > elsewhere, since Esc is strongly associated with abort. We > could even > > try "Enter" as an additional shortcut since that will round off the > > analogy with file renaming. It does affect the ablity to enter > > multiline text, but if we choose to do that, we can use "Ctrl-Enter" > > like Pidgin to start a new line. > > "Enter" as a shortcut works fine for places where you don't > expect to be able to have newlines, which is not the case > here. I'd find it an awful interruption of my work flow if > every time I think I'm just adding a line, I end up leaving > edit mode. Not logical at all. I'm mainly thinking of the > fact that the user will be entering and leaving text edit > mode frequently, and Shift-Esc is awkward. I find Esc > logical for leaving a "special mode", but I'm probably not typical:) > > -Lars > > _______________________________________________ > Dia-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list > FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq > Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia > _______________________________________________ Dia-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
