Hi All,
 
I have to say that there are never enough good doctors; not in Egypt, not in the USA, not in Europe and not anywhere. 
 
One thing that needs to evolve for diabetics is a clear training program which does not just include surgical training but immunology,  rheumatology, anesthesiology, cardiology and pulmonology.  Certification, exams, continuing education and a reporting on the success rates and failure rates of each physician needs to be instituted.  Each area fitting together in a puzzle to create a whole treatment plan for patient. 
 
This is where clinical centers for the treatment of diabetes can truly be of help to people with diabetes, as well as an excellent training for physicians who care to treat the whole patient.  As patients and citizens of Egypt it is your responsibility to try to facilitate the government to finance these institutions.  I am married to an Egyptian, not a citizen of Egypt, thus it is clearly difficult for me to use connections to facilitate this, but everyone in this group who have connections through the university, government, advertising, hospitals, mosques, churches and other areas for prayer.  these areas are outlets for a grass roots development of a clear treatment which is not blinded by the medical doctors fear of having their profession managed, but transcended to the next level.  It is true there are great Doctors in Egypt.  It is also true that it isn't for the Doctor to give all the answers, it is the responsibility of each person to take their own health into their hands...  
 
 
Anyway this is my longwinded two cents.
 
Anyway this is a great discourse.
 
 nina


From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ahmed Nour-Eldin
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Diab.Eg] Re: Again Misscarriage & Diabetes!!

Hello All..
 
Hello Hady !
Its a long time since hearing from you.. how are you doing, hope everything is fine.
 
Hady I want to tell you that you are probably reading my mind !!!.. you know what I was thinking of ???.. after finding these continued incidents of careless decisions from some persons who are supposed to be MD Professionals !
 
What I thought of and would like to happen oneday is finding a way into which People can have a voice and act against these non ethical persons.
 
If we can let people be aware that .. not all doctors are always right .. a doctor's word IS NOT God's Word .. the importancy of self health education .. Doctors will start to think more before prescriping drugs of their sponsoring pharma companies only.... because people will stop to go to them !!
 
I know the issue is not that simple... and it will need finance.. and will need efforts... and time offcourse for people to start realize what we are talking about...!!
 
But I am very excitied about your proposal for a useful campaign to introduce all these conflicts to the people of this country.... as you said in your message.
 
I'll try to call you next week so that we can see what could be done.
 
 
best regards
Ahmed Nour-Eldin
 
 
      
----- Original Message -----
From: "Weathered Hady[G-Mail]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Diab.Eg] Re: Again Misscarriage & Diabetes!!

> Dear AllI do think that you all know about what a doctor did by a phoneconsultation when he ruined my life with the only girl I loved.Oh yessssssssssssss we are facing a critical fast growing no ofdoctors and this led to being comeercial doctors rather than angelscreated to help us live.Actually this problem has one or more reasons I can list some of them:1- The failure we are facing in our educational system especially atthe secondary school when we refer to the highest grades as theose whodeserve to be doctors and pharmacists, inspite this is wrong and mustbe evaluted by one of two things    a. Market study about the marketneeds for all specializations    b. Applying all those students to anadmission test to see for which extent theroitically and physicallythey can be good doctors and care for others2- The second reason lies behing the absence of governmet role in themedicinne market leaving pharmaceutical companies play the main roleeven that they can change the doctor from an angel to an end sellerfor their products and I swear I have a close friend who used to workas a sales man for pharmaceutical companies that he disasters with bigdoctos not small one so that one of them asked him one time to tellhis HQ that his new clinic needs to be finished and furnitured and inreturn we know all what the mcompany will earn.3- The illiteracy we are still facing about making a check up evenafter the doctor prescribes a medicine in dangerous situations by evenreading the papers attached with any medicine carefully and referringto the doctor in cae of any problems.
> Dear all, I can offer you a plan through diabetes youth care societyand in help with Ahmed Nour El Din, I can offer a very useful campaignto introduce all these conflicts to the people of this country on thewebmail and by stickers in streets and by any possible way.If anyone is interested pls follow up.RegardsAbdelhady RezkDiabetes since 1995
>
 


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