Yes, anyone who would like a copy. Just email me. [email protected], I just used it at a public meeting in Poland where we want to locate a plant. That site is only 120 km from a German biogas plant that has had widely-publicized odor problems. We distinguished our design from farm plant designs and addressed the problems causing odor at the other location. The meeting was successful and the local community is as supportive of the project at this point as we could possibly hope for.
Randy Randy M. Mott President CEERES Sp. z o.o. Ul. Postepu 1 02-676 Warsaw +48 22 843 11 22 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://www.ceeres.eu/> www.ceeres.eu From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alexander Eaton Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 4:52 PM To: For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion Subject: Re: [Digestion] Environmentalists Anti-AD Issues Randy, can you share the odor paper? Cheers A On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Randy Mott <[email protected]> wrote: The introduction to our odor White Paper: " Every major environmental organization has endorsed biogas as the most environmentally friendly method of addressing management of organic waste. These conclusions by professional environmental advocates completely contradict the uninformed views of local residents overly concerned over this issue. Environmental groups widely support biogas as the preferred method of dealing with biodegradable wastes." Instead of sending it to landfill, anaerobic digestion allows us to convert this waste into biogas, making it part of the solution." Greenpeace: http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog /climate/the-weekly-geek-anaerobic-digestion-20080220 . Greenpeace calls for "biodegradable household and food industry waste" to be taken to a "local biogas plant . urban centres." Greenpeace brochure on biogas in the UK, page 12: http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/MultimediaFiles/Live/ FullReport/7154.pdf . Friends of the Earth has specifically endorsed construction of biodegradation facilities in Poland for organic wastes since 2008. http://bankwatch.org/documents/letter_ DGRegio_08_05_08.pdf. Note: all of these groups are talking about biogas for waste management, not farm biogas, which is an important distinction, explained below. " The question is obvious: what do these professional environmental groups know about biogas than local Polish residents do not seem to know? Obviously there is an information gap. We will provide the answer in our description of the technology successfully developed in Denmark over the last thirty years." It gets better, but this is to get their attention. Randy Mott CEERES -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alan Muller Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:39 AM To: For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion; For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion Subject: Re: [Digestion] Environmentalists Anti-AD Issues Well, on the original point, what I've seen in Minnesota is some enviro types cheerleading for AD in a rather uninformed way, as if this is their latest enthusiasm in a long line including corn ethanol, "biomass" burning, etc. Others, of course, are concerned that proposed projects wouldn't be good neighbors. The interest is sometimes connected to improved organics management, but more usually to the--typically insignificant--electricity or "biogas" production. Rarely are people thinking much about the fate of the digestate. The investors and "economic development" types are mostly interested in harvesting some of the various incentives associated with "renewable energy." They, and the politicians, are confused by the plethora of folk peddling magic bullet solutions to energy and materials management problems. It matters not, apparently, that almost all of these ignore basic principles of chemistry and thermodynamics we all supposedly learnt in high school. Overall, an amusing but not very productive scene..... am _______________________________________________ Digestion mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergyli <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergyl i%0Asts.org> sts.org for more information about digestion, see Beginner's Guide to Biogas http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/ _______________________________________________ Digestion mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergyli sts.org for more information about digestion, see Beginner's Guide to Biogas http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/ -- Alexander Eaton Sistema Biobolsa IRRI-Mexico RedBioLAC Mex cel: (55) 11522786 US cel: 970 275 4505 [email protected] [email protected] sistemabiobolsa.com www.irrimexico.org www.redbiolac.org
_______________________________________________ Digestion mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org for more information about digestion, see Beginner's Guide to Biogas http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/
