Mr. Hibbs is apparently confused by my gender as well as by the dynamics of
good instruction:

"perhaps the lady doth protest too much?>>

He asked: and answered his own question:

<<> ><<Would the students (attendees) have learned more if they had
> >listened, in advance, to the lecture at a time convenient to them? Or
> >if they had read the text commentary and looked at the links provided
> >- all well in advance of the physical meeting place?>>

This is indeed looking to technology to fix education,  on the assumption
that the problem is  finding ways for education to help student "learn
more": the quantitative fix.

The very notion of learning "more" is the beginning of a profound misreading
of the problem of education.

Many of the nonacademics who decide to advise the academy  assume that the
lecture is a mechanical performance that can, as suggested here, be recorded
in advance with no loss of quality or impact: indeed, that the student would
"learn more" if they could rewind the tape, review difficult ideas, etc.

This is a very old, endlessly repeated mistake, and would that there was
some way to end its reappearance.

A good analysis of this mistake is Chapter 3 of Hubert Dreyfus' ON THE
INTERNET, titled "Disembodied Telepresence and the Remoteness of the Real."

The good lecturer picks up cues from the students in front of him, and
varies his rhythm, repeats ideas, invites questions, according to those
cues.

David Blair, a robe, who has taught extensively via interactiver television
as well as lectured conventionally, makes interesting and important points
in the Dreyfus chapter:

"In the first place I am often aware of a lot of things going on in the
class in addition to a student actually asking a question or commenting.
Sometiimes when a student asks a question I can see, peripherally, other
students nodding their heads in agreement with the question. This would
indicate that the student's question is important to the rest of the class
so I will take more care in answering it fully."

(This kind of adjustment, of course, cannot take place with a recorded
lecture.)

"...Second, as I lecture, I'm drawn to the point of view that is most
comfortable or informative for me--a point of view that may be different
from lecture to lecture or even may change during during a lecture. Perhaps
this is simlar to Merleau-Ponty's notion of 'maximum rip.' To find this
pooint of view requires that I be able to move around during the lecture
sometimes approaching the students closely , sometimes moving away."

And much more.

Perhaps an important point to make is that we might usefully distinguish
using technology to bring learning to those place in the world wherelive
instruction is difficult or impossible and giving advice to the Harvards and
the Sorbonnes as to how they might improve instruction by videotaping
lectures.

To repeat the original point of the post in question: the way to improve
online education is to listen to the technology, learn its genius and its
limitations, and develop instruction that emerges from that genius rather
than by mimicking and "improving" the methods of face-to-face instruction.

Steve Eskow

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