Hi Anne:
I couldn't resist responding to your assertion about foreign students
appreciating education so much more than American students. I think you
are right about foreign students spotting opportunities, but many
foreign students were already privileged in terms of education. They
may have attended very rigorous institutions as children and are well
prepared to take advantage of the great post-secondary educational
offerings in this country. But it really depends on their
socio-economic circumstances in their home country. In other words, a
child who comes from an educated family will likely "understand the
value of the education and opportunities that are offered in this
country" because of previous education and their relatively educated
family is not strictly in survival mode. Other immigrant students who
did not grow up privileged and whose families are not educated are in
much less of a position to appreciate the educational bounty that the
US has to offer.
I'm basing this argument on statistics I've compiled after 10 years of
teaching lower division courses at the undergraduate level. I think it
is important to understand that some 2nd generation children of non or
poorly educated immigrants have a difficult time appreciating
educational opportunities because they have attended sub-standard
American public schools. There is usually also a clear digital divide
between these two groups of students with the relatively privileged
group more likely to have access to technology.
Brigitte Davila, J.D.
College of Ethnic Studies
San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94132
415-338-1054
On Jun 22, 2005, at 5:30 AM, Anne Houlihan wrote:
Hi I'm new to the Digital Divide discussion group. I joined it as part
of a requirement for a class I am taking on Internet Research for
Educators. I really enjoy reading the different threads and wanted to
respond to this one. The digital divide is a problem that is both
social
and technological. Cindy is right in that we need to teach basic
respect
for other people's knowledge and contributions and technology is not a
substitute for this respect and responsibility to others.
Young people in this country have so many opportunities that are theirs
to take. Often it is the foreign students who really understand the
value of the education and opportunities that are offered in this
country because they have lived in countries where such rights do not
exist.
Anne Houlihan
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [DDN] podcast me a lecture (the educational piece)
Hello Teresa,
There were many times in college I wish I had had the opportunity to
listen to a lecture again - not because of the brilliance of the
content, but rather because the content had eluded me during the 50 or
90 minutes of class.
One point in time we used to tape the lectures so that we can listen it
over and over again. It is especially true for foreign students such as
myself studying in the US.
BUT .. the departure here is ... WE took the responsibility to tape the
lectures ourselves. WE attended the lectures, we asked permission to
tape the lectures.
My initial command is: students should take the responsibility of
'lectures' instead of being "pampered". Again this is my personal
opinion because I take strongly that students should at least
understand
the minimum requirement of respect FOR their lecturer ... attend the
lectures and show your keeness.
Over the years, I see so much attention pay to technology, but we
forget
about how to raise responsible citizens. We forget about the social
aspects of many things. Therefore even if we have the greatest digital
bridging initiatives, would that stand the chance being topedo because
there is no social and human decency to support it?
Digital Divide is a social problem . NOT a technology problem.
Cindy
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