I agree, and second the proposal. A central space for printer reviews that isn't run by an inkjet manufacturer trying to sell ink would be wonderful. We wouldn't need a list of every printer on the market...just a central space where users can post their specific printer models and their experience with them.

A simple web form would work, running off a database, with a script to automagically compile results into a directory of reviews. Anyone volunteer to run the thing? Probably not a lot of maintenance once it's up and running, but some scripting to get it set up. And I'm sure any number of us can provide a space to put it online.

  D.

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CTCNet Chicago
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Dan Bassill wrote:
It would seem to me that a group like this could serve as an informal "consumer reports" network. If someone sets up a web site with a listing of every printer on the market, and with a rating system that asks for votes showing which are the best value, longest lasting, etc., everyone else could vote their opinion.

Over time the collective experience of a large group would begin to shape purchasing decisions and if people buy what lasts longest, the market will begin to move in that direction.

Dan Bassill
Tutor/Mentor Connection
http://tutormentorconference.bigstep.com


on 11/4/05 8:46 AM, Michael Maranda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


    Friends,

    I tend to have serious misgivings whenever confronted with the
    purchase of printing equipment and supplies.  The idea of intended
    obsolence or rather time limited utility of printing equipment as
    seems to be the modus operandi of the printing equipment and supply
    industry is what bothers me most.

    What resources are there that inform consumers and organizations as
    to the issues surrounding these purchases?  I'm not really speaking
    of a consumer reports rating, but a question of costs involved
    alongside environmental issues such as the disposability/full
    replacement frameworkŠ


    How long should a printer last?   Will you have to replace specific
    parts (drum)?  At what interval?  Will you be able to?   What is
    done with old or replaced parts?

    The business model for some equipment lines is that the profit comes
    from sales of suppliesŠ such as tonerŠ and the actual equipment is
    expected not to last more than a certain period of time, with
    replacement of key parts being comparable to full replacement of the
    device.

    Without moving to high-end models, where I think the issues arent
    necessarily that different, just the direct costs possibly more
    easily absorbed (and accounted for by the organization) and the
    indirect and environmental externalities not borne (by definition)
    by the company aloneŠ

    What role do we play in DDN and CTC communities in our purchase
    decisions and in critique of this segment of the tech industry?
     What is our relation to these industries, in terms of general
    environmental and sustainability issues?

    All devices have an expected life-cycle.  But is "built to last"
    something we can achieve in a commodity framework?  How do we
    achieve that?   Can we play a role?


    Regards,

    MM

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    Michael Maranda
President, The Association For Community Networking (AFCN) _http://www.afcn.org
    _Executive Director, CTCNet Chicago
    Chapter                             _http://www.ctcnetchicago.org
_Co-Chair, Illinois Community Technology Coalition (ilCTC) _http://www.ilctc.org
    _Vice President,
CAAELII _http://www.caaelii.org
    _Vice President,
NPOTechs _http://www.npotechs.org
    _


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    16-17, 2005.             _http://www.ctcnetchicago.org/conference_


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