" Further laptop issues: Laptops are all *different*...much more different
than desktops. Someone who can repair a Toshiba Satellite series machine may
have no clue how to even open a Dell. This is very, very different from
desktop computer hardware, and keep in mind that if you're going with
donated machines, you'll likely have a random mixture of makes and models."

Or you could buy from a US refurbisher who will give you all identical
models and repair them for the cost of the shipping.

Mike
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Tech Corps Wisconsin, Inc.
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Tech Corps Wisconsin, Inc. is a statewide, non-profit volunteer 
organization dedicated to bridging the digital divide by providing 
access to technology for children.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave A.
Chakrabarti
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:39 PM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
Subject: Re: [DDN] Hardware Acquisition for ctc/computer training room
inThird World


Dear Bryan, Beth, others,

On the issue of laptops / desktops:

While I agree that desktops are much easier to maintain than laptops, 
especially in a humid environment (laptops, because of their smaller 
form factor, have much more of a problem with heat dissipation / 
moisture accumulation) I'd also like to point out that a great deal of 
flexibility is offered in a mobile computing environment. In the US, 
perhaps, this isn't as relevant...it is easy (relatively) to find 
computing resources and internet connections across most major US 
cities, and even in more rural areas. In India or Cambodia, however, a 
mobile lab might mean the ability to deliver technology exposure / 
training to a village that would otherwise have no access to such 
technology. In so many situations, it is impossible to bring your target 
audience to your center in the third world (I use "Third World" to mean 
a developing nation). They cannot simply drive in from miles away as 
they do here in the US. The problem of geographic availability of 
services is much more acute, and the distances you can deliver a 
solution (and therefore, the populations you can target) are much 
smaller. This means that your option is either to develop a mobile 
solution, or develop lab spaces in every village you wish to serve. 
Bryan does not have quite the same problem, as he is located in a major 
city.

I'd compare the costs of setting up a laptop-based mobile unit not with 
the costs of building a central, desktop-oriented space, but with the 
cost of setting up immobile centres in every locality you want to serve. 
If you're in a major city, and feel you can do this with a centralized 
location, then Bryan's recommendations are applicable...you don't need 
the extra hassles of dealing with laptop maintenance and hardware. If 
not, then laptops may be the only solution.

Further laptop issues: Laptops are all *different*...much more different 
than desktops. Someone who can repair a Toshiba Satellite series machine 
may have no clue how to even open a Dell. This is very, very different 
from desktop computer hardware, and keep in mind that if you're going 
with donated machines, you'll likely have a random mixture of makes and 
models.

Bryan: You're in Lake Gardens! I spent much of my childhood there, and 
have many fond memories. I'll have to remember to visit you next time 
I'm home.

Hope this helps...my first posting to the list.

  Dave.

-- 

Dave A. Chakrabarti
Project Coordinator
CTCNet Chicago
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Uddami Computer Training Centre wrote:

>Dear Beth,
>Ive been helping to run an ICT in Kolkata India for several years now. Here
are a few opinions based on our experience:
>    1) Mobile is great but the laptops will need extra planning and
support. 
>       During the months of high heat and humidity you will have to protect
them
>       with greater care than a desktop machine. We have problems during
the months
>       of September/October when the humidity seems to be greatest here. 
>       If you have a mobile air-conditioned environment, great. Otherwise
you will
>       need to keep the laptops wrapped when not in use and have fans going
>       when in operation to keep them from accumulating moisture. 
>
>     2) Laptops require greater expertise to repair than desktops so before
bringing
>        them into the country make sure you know of someone who definitely
can 
>        repair them. Bring spare parts also if possible
>
>    3) In general we prefer to purchase in country. This is because most of
the
>       donated computers are not worth shipping that far, going through
customs
>       and other hassles versus what can be bought here. Of course India
has a 
>       much larger domestic market for computers than Cambodia. You also
might have
>       more control over the quality of the computers than over a typical
donation. 
>       Perhaps you could purchase in India or Thailand and then bring
in?????
>
>     
>I would really think hard about how to make your center mobile. Desktops
are much cheaper, more reliable and easier to keep running than laptops in
these challenging environments.
>       
>Good Luck
>bryan forst
>Uddami Computer Training Centre
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.uddami.org/uctc
>
>
>  
>



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