Tom S Wrote:

> Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
> > I've been asked for my runtime crash handler with it's CodeView reader 
> > earlier in digitalmars.D so here it is:
> > 
> > http://jump.fm/UVYHG
> > 
> > It includes the runtime handler, a PE reader, CodeView reader and crash 
> > report window.
> > 
> > So far it supports Windows and some bits are already done for posix 
> > platforms. It does a register dump, stack trace with resolved symbol names 
> > with their declaration file and line, as well as a listing of all loaded 
> > modules.
> > 
> > Sorry for the lack of phobos/tango support, this is part of a runtime 
> > project I'm building which should hopefully be released to dsource in a few 
> > months. I'm releasing it now so if someone wants to implement a phobos or 
> > tango port they're free to do it.
> 
> Thanks a lot, Jeremie! The code looks really good. I think I'll be 
> stealing the PE && CV parsing parts for Tango :)

I'm glad to hear that! Just keep my name in the credits and I'll be happy :)

> I'm curious about the runtime project of yours :o Can you shed a bit of 
> the secret? How will it compare to druntime? What's the target audience? 
> Does it have anything to do with 'meshes and textures'? ;)

Well it started a bit over two years ago, back then there was no druntime, I 
was digging into phobos to learn more about the language and decided it would 
be a fun and challenging task to write my own runtime. Then once I had it 
running stable I found out druntime had been created in the meantime!

In any ways, I learned quite a bit of the language's internals and ABI while 
coding and debugging it; I began by removing all default paths and libraries 
from dmd (both in sc.ini and compiling with "--defaultlib= --debuglib=--") and 
made an empty object.d and built my way up until there was no more compiler 
crashes (dmd is quite whiny about not having its "intrinsic" symbols declared, 
mostly the typeinfo's) and all unresolved symbols were added.

Since then the runtime was ported to D2 and kept up to date with every new 
release, I've been using it for these two years and it works great.

I don't really know how it will compare to druntime, I'm not out there to 
compete with them really. I use DMD on both windows and posix platforms (Win7 
and Ubuntu respectively) so its the only supported compiler right now, haven't 
tested 64-bit support either. It would be able to support libraries such as 
phobos and tango with a few changes to the places that call into the compiler 
runtime or memory manager.

Right now the target audience is me. I haven't really considered who the target 
audience might be since I touch a bit of everything. I try and make it as 
generic and as modular as I can, so if someone doesn't need a package they can 
remove it from their build without getting tons of compile errors. I myself am 
focusing towards GUI application development with unified 2D/3D rendering and 
custom controls on top of that rendering as part of the runtime library, among 
many other things.

So you could say it has to do with meshes and textures, although I haven't 
gotten to making interfaces for that part yet. The most I did on that level 
with my runtime was to write a reader for Blizzard's MPQ archives and extract 
model and texture data to render it in opengl, but apart from the MPQ reader it 
was all pretty ugly mixing win32 and gl code along with other stuff in the same 
routine to get the model on screen as fast as possible ;)

I really am just beginning to notice people are interested in my project, I 
don't know when I'll put it on dsource and/or sourceforge. And given that D2 is 
still under heavy development it wouldn't be practical right now. I don't mind 
releasing bits and pieces of it but I would much rather see the first public 
release of it to be an usable one, although the compiler implementation part is 
pretty much stable at this point, if there's enough demand for it I might begin 
with that.

Jeremie

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