On 2012-02-10 02:47, bearophile wrote:
Some more comments about the conference.

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About "Variadic Templates are Funadic" by Andrei Alexandrescu fun talk:

I have had to see it at only 1-1.1X speed, to understand the language.

I can't see the laser spot in the video :-(

Thank you to Walter for designing D varidic templates in a simpler way. C++11 
variadic templates look too much complex and over-engineered (example: the 
lockstep expansion seems a bit crazy).

Slide 21: I didn't know that default is OK as first switch case too :-)

Even the questions&answers part of this talk was interesting enough.

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About Bjarne Stroustrup and Andrew Sutton "A Concept Design for C++":

Regarding this code in Slide 12:

template<Number Num>  Num gsqrt(Num);
gsqrt(2); // fine
gsqrt("Silly!"); // error: char* is not a Number


In D template constraints have two (or more) different usages:
1) To just remove a template from the pool of the usable ones;
2) In other situations only one template is present, and its constraints are a 
way to give it some static typing. In this case I'd like better error messages.


Once this patch is applied:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/692

you are able to write something like this, that isn't exceptionally nice 
looking, but it's useful (it's going to make Phobos code a bit more hairy, but 
the user is going to see some better error messages):


template IsNumberWithError(T, string file, int line) {
     enum bool IsNumberWithError = is( ...
     static if (!IsNumberWithError)
         __ctfeWriteln(file, "(", line, "): '", typeid(T), "' is not a 
number.");
}

double gsqrt(T)(T x) if (IsNumberWithError!(T, __FILE__, __LINE__)) { /*...*/ }

Wouldn't this be possible:


template IsNumberWithError(T, string file = __FILE__, int line = __LINE__) {
     enum bool IsNumberWithError = is( ...
     static if (!IsNumberWithError)
__ctfeWriteln(file, "(", line, "): '", typeid(T), "' is not a number.");
}

double gsqrt(T)(T x) if (IsNumberWithError!(T)) { /*...*/ }

__FILE__ and __LINE__ would be picked up from the "calling" point and not the declaration point of IsNumberWithError. We already have this in some cases.

--
/Jacob Carlborg

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