On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 17:21:43 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
it is still unusable. i don't care what problems samsung or other oem
have, as i still got the closed proprietary system.

Not exactly, as the flourishing Android ROM scene shows. While many people also jailbreak their Apple iDevices, it's not quite so easy to install your own ROM on them. That comes from much of the source being open for Android, though certainly not all of it.

what google really
has with their "open-sourceness" is a bunch of people that works as additional coders and testers for free. and alot of hype like "hey,
android is open! it's cool! use android!" bullshit.

What's wrong with reusing open-source work that has already been done in other contexts, through all the open source projects that are integrated into Android? Those who worked for "free" did so because they wanted to, either because they got paid to do so at Red Hat or IBM and released their work for free or because they enjoyed doing it. Nothing wrong with Android building on existing OSS.

As for the hype, the source google releases, AOSP, is completely open. You're right that it's then closed up by all the hardware vendors, but I doubt you'll find one who hypes that it's open source. So you seem to be conflating the two.

On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 18:50:14 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 18:23:59 +0000
Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-announce
Well, those people want to do that, so why not?

i have nothing against that, everyone is free to do what he want. what i'm against is declaring android "open project". it's proprietary
project with partially opened source.

I'd say open source project with proprietary additions. :) But AOSP is not particularly open in how it's developed, as google pretty much works on it on their own and then puts out OSS code dumps a couple times a year. That's not a true open source process, where you do everything in the open and continuously take outside patches, as D does, but they do pull in patches from the several outside OSS projects they build on.

In any case, AOSP releases all their source under OSS licenses, not sure what more you want.

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