On 2010-10-05 10:02:45 -0400, Heywood Floyd <[email protected]> said:

But, sometimes I get reeeaally weird bugs. I had one bug where if I added an empty function to a class in D I got EXC_BAD_ACCES (segfault). An empty function! Ie "void f(){}". Remove the function--it works. In the debugger, I got the impression maybe the stack has got messed up, but I don't know, the debugger just shows assembler code, and I don't have the proper skills.

It's hard to say without further details, but it could be that you're not recompiling everything that uses the class where you add a function. Unlike in Objective-C, adding a function to a D class breaks most compiled code that uses that class (because you're adding an offset to the virtual function table), so you need to recompile every D module that uses that class (or a derived class).

Note that this is totally unrelated to having Objective-C code in the same program.


This got really frustrating, needless to say, so I started playing around with the build settings. I switched from using LLVM 1.5 (for the obj-c code) to gcc 4.2. And now it magically seems to work!

Are you using D for Xcode? By doing that you basically force everything to be recompiled, which solves problem described above.


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== Question ==
How do you make D code and Obj-C code coexist? That is, I want to write a Cocoa-app that is mostly written in D, and with a little "glue"-code in Objective-C. How do you set that up? Is it even supposed to be possible?

It is totally possible, and not that hard. Communicating via `extern (C)` functions should work well.


(And what could the bug above be? I know LLVM does link-time optimizations, and even run-time optimizations. Could it be that it messes things up?)

I doubt LLVM optimizations have anything to do with your problem. Things to keep in mind when mixing Objective-C:

1. Apple's Objective-C GC isn't supported by D, so you it's probably safer to use manual memory management (retain/release) on the Objective-C site.

2. Exceptions are not compatible between the two runtimes. Throwing can cause unexpected results when it unwinds stack frames in the other language.


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