On 12/24/2011 08:22 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Timon Gehr<timon.g...@gmx.ch>  wrote:
On 12/24/2011 07:00 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Timon Gehr<timon.g...@gmx.ch>    wrote:

On 12/24/2011 06:18 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:


2011/12/24 Mr. Anonymous<mailnew4s...@gmail.com>:

On 24.12.2011 19:01, Denis Shelomovskij wrote:



23.12.2011 22:51, bearophile пишет:



++a[] works, but a[]++ doesn't.



Already known compiler bug.




Is it a joke? Array expression in D are for performance reasons to
generate x2-x100 faster code without any compiler optimisations. Link
to
one of these epic comments (even x100 more epic because of '%' use
instead of 'x###'):



https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/druntime/blob/master/src/rt/arraybyte.d#L1127


But `a[]++` should store a copy of `a`, increment elements and return
stored copy. It is hidden GC allocation. We already have a silent
allocation in closures, but here a _really large_ peace of data can be
allocated. Yes, this allocation sometimes can be optimized out but not
always.

IMHO, D should not have `a[]++` operator.




Why should it store a copy? o_O
I also don't see any allocations in the code on the URL above.



int a_orig = a++;
int[] arr_orig = arr[]++;

If ++ is going to be applied to an array, it needs to have the same
meaning as it does elsewhere. After this operation, arr_orig and arr
must refer to different arrays for that to be true.



Not necessarily.

class D{
    int payload;
    D opUnary(string op:"++")(){payload++; return this;}
}

void main() {
    D d = new D;
    assert(d.payload == 0);
    assert(d++.payload == 1);
}


That doesn't match integer semantics:
int a = 0;
assert(a++ == 0);
assert(a == 1);


Yes, that was my point.


Then I'm not understanding what you're trying to prove.
I'm saying that if we implement a postfix ++ operator for arrays,
keeping the language consistent would require it to make a copy if the
user stores a copy of the original array.

And I said: "not necessarily"

That is because reference types have had semantics that go well with not making a copy all along, so there is no danger of making things more inconsistent.

I guess it could be argued
that since arrays have hybrid value/reference semantics, no copy
should be made and the original should change.

Actually, looking at it from that angle, a[]++ is fundamentally
ambiguous because it could have value semantics or reference
semantics, so I would argue that we shouldn't have it for that reason.
'++a' and 'a += 1' do not have such ambiguities.

I don't think a[]++ should necessarily be there either.



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