On Thursday, 16 January 2014 at 05:56:48 UTC, Jakob Ovrum wrote:
On Tuesday, 14 January 2014 at 11:42:34 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:
The root of the issue is that string literals containing characters which do not fit into signle byte are still converted to char[] array. This is strictly speaking not type safe because it allows to reinterpret 2 or 4 byte code unit as sequence of characters of 1 byte size. The string type is in some sense problematic in D. That's why the fact that .front returns dhcar is a way to correct the problem, it is not an attempt to introduce confusion.

This assertion makes all the wrong assumptions.

`char` is a UTF-8 code unit[1], and `string` is an array of immutable UTF-8 code units. The whole point of UTF-8 is the ability to encode code points that need multiple bytes (UTF-8 code units), so the string literal behaviour is perfectly regular.

This is wrong. String in D is de facto (by implementation, spec may say whatever is convenient for advertising D) array of single bytes which can keep UTF-8 code units. No way string type in D is always a string in a sense of code points/characters. Sometimes it happens that string type behaves like 'string', but if you put UTF-16 or UTF-32 text it would remind you what string type really is.

Operations on code units are rare, which is why the standard library instead treats strings as ranges of code points, for correctness by default. However, we must not prevent the user from being able to work on arrays of code units, as many string algorithms can be optimized by not doing full UTF decoding. The standard library does this on many occasions, and there are more to come.

This is attempt to explain problematic design as a wise action.

Note that the Unicode definition of an unqualified "character" is the translation of a code *point*, which is very different from a *glyph*, which is what people generally associate the word "character" with. Thus, `string` is not an array of characters (i.e. an array where each element is a character), but `dstring` can be said to be.

[1] http://dlang.org/type

By the way, the link you provide says char is unsigned 8 bit type which can keep value of UTF-8 code unit.

UTF is irrelevant because the problem is in D implementation. See http://forum.dlang.org/thread/hoopiiobddbapybbw...@forum.dlang.org (in particular 2nd page).

The root of the issue is that D does not provide 'utf' type which would handle correctly strings and characters irrespective of the format. But instead the language pretends that it supports such type by allowing to convert to single byte char array both literals "sad" and "säд". And ['s', 'ä', 'д'] is by the way neither char[], no wchar[], even not dchar[] but sequence of integers, which compounds oddities in character types.

Problems with string type can be illustrated as possible situation in domain of integers type. Assume that user wants 'number' type which accepts both integers, floats and doubles and treats them properly. This would require either library solution or a new special type in a language which is supported by both compiler and runtime library, which performs operation at runtime on objects of number type according to their effective type.

D designers want to support such feature (to make the language better), but as it happens in other situations, the support is only limited: compiler allows to do

alias immutable(int)[] number;
number my_number = [0, 3.14, 3.14l];

but there is no support in runtime library. On surface, this looks like language have type which supports wanted feature, but if you use it, you will face the problems, as my_number[2] would give strange integer instead of float 3.14 and length of this array is 4 instead of 3. In addition this is not a type safe approach because there is option to reinterpret double as two integers.

Now in order to fix this, there is number of functions in library which treat number type properly. Such practice (limited and broken language support, unsafe and illogical type, functions to correct design mistakes) is embedded into practice so deeply, that anyone who point out on this problem in newsgroup is treated as a fool and is sent to study IEE 754 standard.

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