On Wednesday, 13 July 2016 at 21:27:16 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2016 at 21:12:29 UTC, Adam Sansier wrote:
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Ok, I like!
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I like too! But I'll have to assume you are right since I have no proof.

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Well, one could do this with malloc because one can pre-allocate it too. I figure this is why you stated 2 though because it is pre-allocated? So, really only point 1 stands, but that is probably not even valid since one can wrap the allocator in a template. This is probably exactly what is being done..

So, ultimately no real benefit except the implementation details have been removed. That's not a bad thing as long as it works ;)

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Well, I will try out the code and see. You've provided an example and if it works then it should be good enough in my case. If it doesn't limit what I need to do then I'm happy ;)

How is phobo's going to deal with such things when it is trying to get off the GC? It surely has to throw exceptions. Similar method or something entirely different?

Thanks.

At the end, all memory comes from one of these: GC heap, malloc, mmap, sbrk. All other allocators build on top of these (or on top of user supplied buffers, which come from these as well). What those "wrapper" allocators do is managing the given memory, either using different allocations strategies for different allocation sizes, or keeping lists of free blocks instead of returning them using "free", or other things (have a look at the docs). So at the end they do what you would manually do in C/C++ to "personalize" the allocations, with the aim of reducing waste and/or being faster. They are also arbitrarily composable on top of each other.

I don't know how Phobos will handle exceptions. Maybe use reference counting (coming soon in D, maybe)? Maybe algorithms that already have to allocate will switch from using the GC to using a user-supplied custom allocator, and will use it for exceptions too.

Currently I'm working on a replacement for std.xml and I'm making every component take a template parameter to specify the allocator. Initially the allocators look like a real mess, but after a couple of days playing with them, you start understanding the mechanics and at the end you really enjoy them. Changing a single parameters allows to switch between @safe gc code and @nogc code in the unittests, without changing the implementation.

Ok. Is there a way to bundle allocations so that one free will work?

For example, your exception handling looks good but I need to supply custom messges. If I use sformat I have to create the array for the buffer to create the message in. This means I would have to free both the exception and the string. It would be nice to be able to do this in one go.

Also, could one create a struct or class for the exception so that it is automatically free'ed at the end of a catch block, if caught? Probably not without language help?

Sometimes it's nice to include runtime info in an error message such as an OS error code.




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