Hello Christopher,

Benji Smith wrote:

Nick Sabalausky wrote:

"John Reimer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hello Nick,

But, of course, adjectives (just like "direct/indirect objects")
are themselves nouns.

Umm... May I make a little correction here?
Adjectives are not nouns.  They are used to /describe/ nouns.
-JJR

Maybe there's examples I'm not thinking of, and I'm certainly no
natural language expert, but consider these:

"red"
"ball"
"red ball"
By themselves, "red" and "ball" are both nouns. Stick the noun "red"
in front of ball and "red" becomes an adjectve. (FWIW,
"dictionary.reference.com" lists "red" as both a noun and an
adjective). The only adjectives I can think of at the moment (in my
admittedly quite tired state) are words that are ordinarly nouns on
their own.  I would think that the distinguishing charactaristic of
an adjective vs noun would be the context in which it's used.

Maybe I am mixed up though, it's not really an area of expertise for
me.

Incidentally...

I used to do a lot of work in natural language processing, and our
parsing heuristics were built to handle a lot of adjective/noun
ambiguity.

For example, in the phrase "car dealership", the word "car" is an
adjective that modifies "dealership".

It's a genitive phrase, not an adjective. You couldn't say "That
dealership is car", for instance, but you could say "That is a
dealership of cars."

For the most part, you can treat adjectives and nouns as being
functionally identical, and the final word in a sequence of
adjectives and nouns becomes the primary noun of the noun-phrase.

No, you can't: "I gave the postman chlamydia." What is postman
chlamydia?

--benji



The reason I conceeded a little on this one is because of 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun_phrase.

I'm not sure if wikipedia can be absolutely trusted... but this is beyond my grammatical knowledge to argue absolutely. In a sentence diagram, I would assume that adjectives would have to be distinctly positioned.

In Benji's example, I assume practicality of implementation is what allows adjectives/nouns to be treated similarly, not necessarily strict adherence to grammatical rules.

Just guessing...

-JJR


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