Hello Bill,

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, John Reimer <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello Stewart,

John Reimer wrote:
<snip>
Good question.  I think the new dwt release just inherited (or
hijacked) the title based on the release made by Shawn a couple of
years ago which was Phobos compatible.

So effectively, the Phobos-based DWT is what was passed off as the
"standard D GUI library", and when the Tango-based DWT came about,
it was erroneously labelled as the new "standard D GUI library".
Really, while Tango DWT may have superseded Phobos DWT as being the
DWT that's still actively maintained, Phobos DWT remains the SDGL.

Yes, I'm afraid that about sums it up... yet, if I may add, with
Walter's knowledge; so I think you jumped the gun by not consulting
him first.  But I'm hoping, at the very least, that this discussion
will remove any inhibitions that Walter may have in making a
statement on the matter.  I honestly don't feel comfortable forcing a
Tango-based library on Walter and having it capture the "standard"
title. I agree that isn't fair, so I actually appreciate that the
matter came up.

I suppose it would be fair to fix this on the wiki.  But, that
said, Walter hasn't said otherwise yet. :)

Done....

You moved too fast for two reasons:

1)  The old dwt is basically abandoned.  You put it up at the top.
Don't you think you should put it under the abandoned group instead?
2)  You don't have enough information to go on to make that change,
unless you have dicussed this with Walter.  Maybe he doesn't want to
recognize the old DWT as "standard" anymore, if it isn't actively
developed.  Maybe neither library is "standard".

Walter has commented that he noticed how any time he christens a
project as "standard" it seems to promptly die.  So I think he's very
reluctant to declare anything like that these days.  I doubt those
projects died because of him, but it also certainly didn't seem to
help the projects either, so there's not much point in it.

--bb



I agree... it's a rather silly pursuit, perhaps. It just gets kind of tiresome trying to argue whether it should or not. It doesn't really matter.

-JJR


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