On Saturday, 19 January 2013 at 13:19:36 UTC, Artur Skawina wrote:
(No (or small enough) gain) - (real (tangible) loss) < 0.

If you wonder where the loss comes from, others have mentioned some sources in this thread already. I'm just pointing out the lack of gain and additional
loss components.


Nobody demonstrated anything remotely close to that. You demonstrated a decorrelation, which is only sufficient to remove parameter from the equation (here code quality).

Consider several developers that each stick to there own style.
The autoformatter
will take care of things when the upstream pulls their changes, right? Except, then they each need to use their own private autoformatters in order to merge all
upstream changes, which includes re-merging their own work.
Imagine what that does
to the revision history. Now consider how merging work from coder A by developer B will work. Then merging the result back, B->A. Then pushing upstream. And merging
back by every developer.
It should be obvious that any sane use of an autoformatter would have to be at the local commit phase. But, then a *checking* tool which enforces a common style would be the right solution; an autoformatter would just get in the way (you'd have to effectively merge its changes back after every single commit).

Why do a checking tool would be the right solution ? Why do manually the work that a machine can do automatically ?

Writing the code properly in the first place is a much better approach, the checking tool can catch any mistakes. If there are enough of them and you almost always need a mechanical tool to do the fixing, then you are doing something wrong.


No editor have to show you the code as it is actually foramatted in the source file. Actually, many don't, like IntelliJ. A formatter can work both directions.

BTW, if an autoformatter helps you to perform merges, then the same logic can be
put in the merge tool - making that argument irrelevant.


Which would completely dumb. The only component in the toolchain that care about formatting is the programmer. It make perfect sense to put the formatter between the programmer and everything else in the toolchain.

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