On Monday, 28 January 2013 at 13:20:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
It's a pertinent question. (I didn't know Ferrari is a crappy car :o))

One interesting fact is that we have evidence at hand. Optional parens _exist_ today in D, and have for a while. The language has worked. They haven't been a disaster. Aside from discussions about @property itself, optional parens have just worked. We also have evidence that UFCS is convenient and useful. People use it and like it. And arguably UFCS and optional parens combine in a lovely way.


You have to think at it both way.

In a lot of code of mine, I omit parenthesis. I don't think that is a good idea in general, but I have to suffer the inconsistencies introduced anyway, so it make sense to benefit from them.

We've also converted the Phobos codebase to work with the half-strong -property switch. We've adorned a lot of functions with @property. I don't see evidence of found bugs or improved code quality. (Subjectively, I'd argue we actually degraded esthetics. There's no love lost between me and that "@property" plastered everywhere.)


It seems to me that phobos has way too much @property in the first place (save for range for instance).

I'm pretty sure phobos has that much @property because they were implicit in the first place. Phobos state is to more the consequence of the laxness that existed in the first place rather than a problem with the later fix.

These are not "what if" hypotheses; they describe experience accumulated from past events. Even people who dislike optional parens or UFCS must agree that their sentiment is far from widespread - unlike, for example, was the case for string lambdas.


I have to say I've seen many people « liking » the parentheses-less calls, but not many coming with actual arguments. You are an exception here. I usually don't trust games of numbers on such topics.

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