Lutger wrote:
Yigal Chripun wrote:
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IMO, designing the language to support this better work-flow is a good
decision made by MS, and D should follow it instead of trying to get
away without an IDE.
I'm not sure about this. D is designed to be easier to parse than C++
(but that's saying nothing) to allow better tools made for it. I think this
should be enough.
C# & friends not only better supports working inside an IDE, but makes it a pain to
do without. Autocomplete dictates that related functions should be named with
the exact same prefix - even when this isn't logical. It also encourages names to be
as descriptive as possible, in practice leading to a part of the api docs encoded in
the function name. Extremely bloated names are the consequence of this. It doesn't
always make code more readable imho.
this I completely disagree with. those are the same faulty reasons I
already answered.
an IDE does _not_ create bad programmers, and does _not_ encourage bad
code. it does encourage descriptive names which is a _good_ thing.
writing "strcpy" ala C style is cryptic and *wrong*. code is read
hundred times more than it's written and a better name would be for
instance - "stringCopy".
it's common nowadays to have tera-byte sized HDD so why people try to
save a few bytes from their source while sacrificing readability?
the only issue I have with too long names is when dealing with C/C++
code that prefixes all symbols with their file-names/namespaces. At
least in C++ this is solved by using namespaces. but this is a problem
with the languages themselves and has nothing to do with the IDE.
The documentation comments are in xml: pure insanity. I tried to generate documentation
for my stuff at work once, expecting to be done in max 5 min. like ddoc. Turns out nobody at
work uses documentation generation for a reason: it isn't really fleshed out and one-click
from the IDE, in fact it is a pain in the arse compared to using ddoc.
I should stop now before this turns into a rant.
I agree fully with this. XML documents are a mistake made by MS. javadoc
is a much better format and even that can be improved.
This however has nothing to do with the IDE. the important part is that
the IDE parses whatever format is used and can show you the
documentation via simple means. no need for you to spend time to find
the documentation yourself.
