On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:52:42 -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,


Online courses are becoming quite popular. A D course on one of the up-and-coming online course sites would be great. If anyone would want to do such a course (e.g. derived from TDPL), chime in here with ideas.


Thanks,

Andrei

We looked into doing something like this for one of our products. And got a few interesting takeaways from it.

First off, doing anything of the quality that a site like Coursera is likely to accept requires a pretty substantial up-front investment. You need access to a soundstage, HD camera, audio mixing gear, and an assortment of lights for the "talking head" portions of the videos that are usually present. Even if you choose to eschew the talking head portions completely you still need access to a sound-isolated booth and audio mixing gear. This wasn't a major problem for us (you can rent these things just about anywhere in North America/Europe), so it wasn't the reason we decided not to.

I'd also point out that this really requires a trained voice-actor with knowledge of how to modulate their voice to sound correct in audio. Voice-Over work is most definitely NOT something just anyone can do. Unless the community has someone with the needed skills in this area, you'd be well advised to hire it out for a few K$. Having a good voice will make ALL the difference in whether or not people can even stand to listen through a single video segment. We (Prospective Software) happen to have someone with the required skills on staff already, so that wasn't the reason we decided against either.

The reason we decided not to essentially boils down to the inherent properties of video. First, video is linear. And second, video is not searchable. Given that programming is both highly non-linear and highly context-sensitive, these two properties make video a less than ideal method for teaching languages. That's not to say it can't be done, our marketing guy took the C# course from Lynda.com (similar to coursera) in order to better understand what he is selling (and just what the heck those programmers were saying!). However, the content was very basic, and was not really meant as anything other than a jumping off point for experimentation. And even to cover the basics took something like 40hrs of video. It took the marketing guy 40 hours to complete roughly 8 hours of video due to the constant rewinding and reloading of other videos he needed to remind himself. Now the marketing guy has no programming background, but that said, languages are contextual, and you always have to rewind to remember what the the presenter is referencing from two videos ago.

There was also another reason. We couldn't find a single company in our space (broadly defined as programmer tools) that used videos as their primary teaching method. If they had any videos at all, they tended to be feature-specific usage demonstrations. What were the companies we looked at pushing as the best way to learn their software? Documentation. Which I define as searchable documents that encourage hands-on experimentation. Also of note is that their documentation tends to be well organized, easily searchable, includes high amounts of detail, and most importantly, is well written.

Given the costs associated with video production, and the inherent difficulties of teaching programming via video. I would say that D would get a MUCH better ROI on improving the available documentation. Consider for a moment that video can only answer the questions that the scripter forsees, how then is the new users supposed to continue learning beyond what the videos teach?

There is yet another factor to be considered. Producing video is a very laborious process. And once it is produced, it cannot be changed without being re-shot and reedited. Given the high rate-of-change that D has been experiencing, the chances of the video become obsolete quickly are very high, even when constrained to the basics. Essentially, every bug fix becomes another potential video re-shot. This was another factor we faced since we are planning for (roughly) quarterly feature releases.

My personal opinion is that D is nowhere near ready for videos. The documentation itself is very thin and what there is tends to be either out-of-date, poorly-written, light on details, or some combination thereof. Without searchable docs to back-up what it shown in the videos, there is a good chance that you'll just confuse people.

However, I am sure that their are counter arguments, and I am not intending to disuade, only comment on our experiences. We have another product in development for a completely different market (Aftermarket Automotive CRM) that we intend on developing over 100 hours of video training for, because it happens to work well in that market.

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