On Wednesday, 27 February 2013 at 09:32:21 UTC, OlliP wrote:

... Java 8 is a game changer that threatens
Scala, and Kotlin.

Well, Kotlin has the ability to generate Javascript. This could turn into a killer feature as Javascript is growing in importance, e.g. Node.js, html5+Javascript and the importance of Javascript for Web GUIs as such. I hope they can make it as the language IMHO is really well designed.


You missed out Ceylon from your list, it is threatened by Java 8 as
well.

Ceylon is not made for interoperability with Java such as Groovy, Kotlin, Scala. I don't think they stand a chance if the Java eco system cannot be easily re-used. I don't understand what the Ceylon guys are thinking.

-- Oliver

Except scala, I'm not really a specialist. But clearly scala have some very good bits in it and I'm sure it can stand by itself. See for instance the traits system.

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