On 03/28/2013 12:09 PM, nazriel wrote:
On 03/28/2013 09:53 AM, 1100110 wrote:

I'll work on 1. and see if we can't come up with something better!

The code snippets are pretty much necessary IMO. They just need to be
fixed.
----
int[] a = ...;
static bool greater(int a, int b)
{
return a > b;
}
sort!(greater)(a); // predicate as alias
sort!("a > b")(a); // predicate as string
// (no ambiguity with array name)
sort(a); // no predicate, "a < b" is implicit
----


So what about something like this then?
It's not *great*, but it actually runs now.

---- void main() { import std.algorithm;

int[] a = [7,5,6];

bool greater(int a, int b)
{
return a > b;
}
// Here are a few different methods,
// Please note I'm doing the same work 3 times.
sort!(greater)(a); // predicate as alias
sort!("a > b")(a); // predicate as string (no ambiguity with array
name)
sort(a); // no predicate, "a < b" is implicit
assert(isSorted(a));// Proof that it works as expected.

---- }


I was gonna come up with a short script to grab all the examples, but
apparently github is very protective of out code, and I really don't
wanna do html...

It'd be great if the js stuck the "void main()" and the imports in for
us at least.

Yeah, option 1) may work.
Although in most cases import moduleWeAreIn; isn't enough.
So I guess stabbing default pack of imports maybe necessary.

We can work out this way: Adding JS hash-map that will map Phobos
modules to imports pack. Something like this:

imports["std.algorithm"] = "std.algorithm; std.file: write; std.process:
shell";

What ya think? It will also allow to resolve symbol conflicts like
std.stdio.write vs std.file.write

The default view of example could stay in tact (of course validity of
code needs to be fixed anyways), but when you Click edit, script would
wrap example in void main() {} and append import pack I mentioned above.

However I think that option number 2) may be more scalable.
Think about like this:

By default all examples are parsed and every snippet is wrapped in void
main(){}.

Script then fetches data for module we are in. Let's say: std.algorithm;

What script gets is:
- imports table - default set of imports that is appended to every
snippet in module.
- special cases - snippets marked explicitly may have additional options
like: don't append main() block, add additional imports to certain
snippet, replace module imports table with fetched ones, add default
standard input, add default standard arguments, don't make this snippet
runnable etc.

Why it's better than option number 1?
Maintaining this data set is way much more easy because you don't need
to edit java script file by hand, compute md5sum, make all necessary
changes and then make pull request that may wait a bit in pull request
queue. You just enter (for example) http://paste.dlang.org/examples
search for certain example in database, if it doesn't exist you just add
it and make all changes you need. Then depending on what way we pick,
request is added to queue and moderator accepts it or rejects OR it just
works wiki-like, so change is visible after you submit changes.

What you think?
Anyways, if you have any questions feel free to mail me at [email protected]



I think you may have hit upon something with part #2.

Stick with the script idea real quick. But make it slightly more generic. How many times have you wished you had a small code example for the immediate thing you want?

I was trying to sell D to my friend, and Bam! readf's non-obvious blocking behaviour hit me! So imagine a little script that sits in front of a github repo.(or whatever, the first place to look is API + rosetta code probably.) You give it the name of a module, or a function, or just straight text with what you want.
It gives you code that it knows imports *and uses* that code.

I can't figure out what's up with readf? I I now have more than enough public domain examples that (hopefullu..) I'll immediately see the problem.

So, extending that a little further, what if it's a script that can tell what you're looking for that can make specific offers, such as the official documentation.


That would definitely be a worthy project for D-Programming-Language/Tools, IMO.



The script could always sit in front of some website like dpaste, but what if it didn't have to?

That's one thing that's always bothered me, we aspired to that kind of ease of use(rdmd --man, for example) but it was never *quite* good enough to be impressed by. Or really use, personally.

Imagine it.


$ rdmd --search std.algorithm cartesianproduct
======================================================================
auto N = sequence!"n"(0);       // the range of natural numbers
auto N2 = cartesianProduct(N, N);

// the range of all pairs of natural numbers    
// Various arbitrary number pairs can be found
// in the range in finite time.

assert(canFind(N2, tuple(0, 0)));
assert(canFind(N2, tuple(123, 321)));
assert(canFind(N2, tuple(11, 35)));
assert(canFind(N2, tuple(279, 172)));
======================================================================
More? [Y/n]

$ rdmd --search println
=======================================================================
/// Read until end of file
import std.stdio;

int main() {
        string buf;
        while ((buf = stdin.readln()) !is null)
                write(buf);
        return 0;
}
========================================================================
More? [Y/n]


Best of both worlds! It should have a full website UI for searching and even editing. Even if rdmd rejects it, that is something that simply must happen!

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