01.04.2013 20:19, Nick Sabalausky пишет:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:50:22 -0400
Andrei Alexandrescu <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/1/13 11:21 AM, Denis Shelomovskij wrote:
01.04.2013 0:02, monarch_dodra пишет:
This is a two part post.
The reason I'm worried about this bug is that the only condition
that seems to trigger it passing an object that has a destructor.
I find this is very bothersome, because it can happen with
perfectly safe code, and its "observable condition" is perfectly
undefined. Finally, it only appears in -O, biting you in the ass
in the worst possible moment.
Nothing personal, I do respect you, but
Bitch please!
[snip]
Denis, the above (as well as most of the message that follows) is
entirely inappropriate. It's also compounded by your antics on
github, where your contributions are marred by a tendency to bully
other contributors and to convert most every disagreement into
strife. I have repeatedly asked you kindly to correct that behavior
to no effect.
Remember, nobody's holding a gun to your head; the door is always
open for entering as well as leaving. It is entirely understandable
if you find D unfit for whatever you do, or if its development
process is not to your satisfaction. But this ongoing attitude of
playing the victim, interpreting the team's shortcomings as
incompetence doubled by malice, and picking fights left and right, is
not helping you or anybody.
I compel you again to revise your attitude toward the people you work
and interact with in the forum and on github. If that does not
happen, I will propose to the core team that your github account is
banned from our project. Sorry it had to come to this.
Geez. It just sounded like a reasonable expression of frustration to me.
*I've* said shit on here that was *far* less level-headed. More than
once.
But then, I never said anything implying an inability to use D
reliably. So I can't help wondering if there's some PR-motivated bias
here. Well, ok, I *do* realize there probably isn't, but when you
respond with the threat of a ban to a fairly reasonable post about
frustrations from having major trouble with the language, then
first of all, that overreacting, but worse: people can easily
misconstrue that as an attempt to sweep real problems things under the
rug. I know nobody's trying to do that, but we definitely don't want
people thinking we are. And that definitely makes it look like we are.
The Andrei wrote it not just because of a "fairly reasonable post" but
because of my steady disrespectful behaviour (see [1] for a "light"
example) in pull request discussions which does worth a ban.
[1]
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/954#issuecomment-15352387
P.S.
Also, Nick, if you have time, could you show me, how do you suggest "to
use D reliably" in non toy Windows projects as you "never said anything"
against it?
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Денис В. Шеломовский
Denis V. Shelomovskij
