On Friday, 12 April 2013 at 12:19:09 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Friday, 12 April 2013 at 12:12:18 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
On Friday, 12 April 2013 at 09:54:30 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
On 11 April 2013 17:57, Paulo Pinto <[email protected]> wrote:

Am 11.04.2013 17:20, schrieb John Colvin:

On Thursday, 11 April 2013 at 15:15:09 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

On 4/11/13, Jonas Drewsen <[email protected]> wrote:

By "I think that would be the way to go" I did not necessary refer to having both formats supported at the same time but
simply to use the standard way that people know.


Unix != universal standard.


Next best thing.


Actually I would like to know how the desktop world would look like
had Apple bought BeOS instead.

This would mean no UNIX on the desktop, assuming Apple would have
won a similar market as of today.

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Paulo


Linux would have still taken off... and UNIX would still be relevant on the
server market.  :)


Linux took off because it provided a way to port UNIX software at cost zero.

The companies where I developed in commercial UNIX platforms they only used Linux as a way to avoid paying UNIX licenses, not because Linux was something great.

The enterprise world only cares about money.

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Paulo

I think we can probably agree that linux has become something quite great, despite that not being the initial reason for adoption.

Fully agree, having access to Linux in 1995 allowed me to gain
skills I could use while working on DG-UX, HP-UX, Aix and Solaris
a few years later.


Even if you don't like the basic architecture that much, the community and frameworks built on top of it have been spectacular.

Also fully agree.

I only mean that the community should move beyond basic UNIX clones, even if many of the concepts stay. Plan9, Minix, Mach, Hurd, or something else.

If we look at the application level for command line applications it has hardly changed since System V.

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Paulo

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