On Friday, 12 April 2013 at 16:42:18 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
While I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the other points you
raise,
Phobos's excess allocations *are* verifiability hurting D. A
couple of
the biggest potential user bases for D are videogames and
embedded. I
feel confident in saying that no other language has as much
potential
in these areas as D has. But these groups have *already*,
vocally, been
facing the problem of avoiding/rewriting potentially-large
parts of
Phobos, or sticking with C/C++.
Now, you could argue that many of these people are simply being
overly
fearful of a merely imagined problem, but even if that's true,
the
problem is still real in it's effects: Hindering D adoption and
causing
people to (perhaps needlessly) avoid/rewrite parts of Phobos.
Now, I'm not suggesting that we do *or* don't start a big
effort to
minimize allocations throughout Phobos, I'm simply objecting to
the
implication that unnecessary allocations in Phobos aren't
hurting D in
any way.
No, that's not what I was trying to say. I agree with your post
completely. My point was specifically about std.process in
particular, since I was misunderstanding why Manu was using
std.process as an example.
