On 05/12/2013 02:08 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 5/12/2013 9:42 AM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
Second, in the Q&A session of your talk, you said, "I'm sorely tempted
to say
that real men don't use IDEs..."

Yes, but I said that as a joke.

It was said jokingly, but I have very little doubt it conveyed your true feelings. You have a history of brushing off concerns about IDEs by relying on a remark from David B. Held that Java needs an IDE to generate boilerplate, which I will say to the contrary is one of the lower priority reasons of why I find IDEs so useful for Java.

Do you use an IDE? Have you even tried one in the past 10 years?

No, the sentiment was that an IDE was not the solution to a language's
deficiencies.

That's fine, but when somebody asks you about D support for IDEs, "joking" about "real men" not needing one doesn't inspire confidence you actually understand the value. Maybe in your next keynote you can talk about how D has first-class support for IDEs, much like you did for unit tests.

One way to get first-class support is to make the compiler amenable to being used as a library, something that's been suggested before. I'd be happy to be told I'm out of date, and this support is already in the works or at least on the radar.

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