On 7/30/13 11:35 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 7/30/2013 11:18 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Thanks for this anecdote. It's at the very best circumstantial. (With
the engine
off, the oil pump wasn't even started!)

The oil pump is driven by the crankshaft, so if the engine is turning,
the oil pump is. (There are some highly specialized race engines with an
electric oil pump, but that is highly unlikely here.)

I was told by U-Haul that when towing a car long distance, you couldn't
just put the manual transmission in neutral. You had to take the
driveshaft out, because the transmission was designed to circulate the
oil based on the front shaft turning, not the back shaft. It would sieze
after a while if you only turned the back shaft.

So that invalidates the anecdote.

I also pointed out the "hammering" effect of alternately forward driving
then back driving the rotating parts, as the parts forcefully take up
the slack of hysteresis.

I guess any brisk adjustment of throttle would be unadvisable, one direction or another (i.e. releasing the clutch with a large difference in rotation). Back driving, however, happens as soon as one just lifts the foot off the pedal - the inertia of the car pushes on the engine.

I also pointed out the effect of unburned gas from backdriving washing
oil off of the cylinder walls causing undue wear. This definitely
happens with carbureted cars, but with modern fuel injection the fuel is
shut off when backdriving.

That's my understanding as well. With fuel injection, essentially backdriving is rolling on zero gas consumption while preserving some mechanical energy - aweee-sooome.


Andrei

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