On Sunday, August 11, 2013 02:25:33 Iain Buclaw wrote: > On 11 August 2013 00:16, Jonathan M Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Saturday, August 10, 2013 17:31:39 Iain Buclaw wrote: > >> On 10 August 2013 16:52, Ali Çehreli <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > On 08/10/2013 08:42 AM, artur wrote: > >> >> Apparently, posts from the mailing lists are not making it to the > >> >> web i/f; the other direction seems to work. > >> > > >> > It looks to be the reverse for that sample thread: My response to Iain > >> > was > >> > posted from Thunderbird. (I don't use the forum interface.) > >> > > >> > Ali > >> > >> My client just so happens to be gmail. I seem to receive all posts > >> from everyone... looks like Ali won't receive this message, and I > >> don't expect this message to show on the forum interface either... > > > > gmail never sends you your own responses. Google is "helpful" and filters > > out the messages that you send to a mailing list when they get sent back > > to you. That's actually the #1 reason why I stopped using gmail. So, if > > you're using gmail, that could add to the confusion. > > You know, I've never had that problem... and it's not *me* who's > getting the confusion.
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588?topic=1564 If you never noticed it, I'd guess that you use gmail's web interface rather than a local client, as gmail will show your sent messages in the threading that it does. If you're using a local client, that obviously doesn't happen, since sent messages don't normally get put in your inbox. So, as someone who uses a local mail client pretty much exclusively, what gmail was doing was really annoying, particularly since it was constantly breaking up threads that I replied in. But either you have a very different workflow (like using the web interface), or your e-mail client is much smarter than mine, or you just didn't notice for some reason. But if gmail works for you, then great. This issue was a deal breaker for me. It took it from gmail being annoying in some of its quirks and how badly it interacted with local clients to being unacceptably broken. - Jonathan M Davis > It's the fact that I *send* messages to, and > *receive* responses from people who are using mail clients. But via > the web interface, no one could see this activity, which if you are > some of the few that only use the web interface to communicate, you > miss out in this way. I always use the mailing list. - Jonathan M Davis
