== Quote from Yigal Chripun ([email protected])'s article > dsimcha wrote: > > == Quote from Yigal Chripun ([email protected])'s article > >> dsimcha wrote: > >>> == Quote from Yigal Chripun ([email protected])'s article > >>>> personally, I think opApply should be removed. it provides "push" style > >>>> iteration which should be provided as a "each" method of the container. > >>>> the "pull" style of ranges should be used with client side looping. > >>> But the beauty of a lot of this stuff is that the syntax of iteration > >>> stays the > >>> same no matter how it works under the hood (builtins, ranges, opApply). > >>> This is > >>> important for both generic programming and programmer convenience. > >> I'm not sure I follow this. > >> if you just want to do something with all elements than you're right but > >> if you want to do something more complex where you need to use the range > >> interface yourself than you can't use the foreach loop. > > > > Yes, but a large portion of the time, iterating over all elements is all > > you need. > > For example, if I want to write a generic function to find the mean and > > standard > > deviation of some object, I just need to be able to loop over it once. I > > don't > > care if it uses a range, builtin arrays, builtin associative arrays, > > opApply, or > > pixie dust and magic. The way this is done should be dead simple and > > consistent > > regardless of how it works under the hood. Of course if you need to do > > something > > more complicated you may need to care about the details, but it's very > > often the > > case that you don't. > OK, that does makes sense. i thought that ranged are for those > complicated situations but at a second thought there is no reason to > have this limit. > the one consist way to iterate over the elements regardless of what's > under the hood is the foreach loop so my question than is what is/should > be the priorities between the different iteration modes? > if I have a container that provides both a range and opApply, which > would be used by the compiler in the foreach loop?
My vote would be for opApply. Of course there is no perfect answer and the compiler will have to guess which one you mean, but I think opApply is about always the right guess. Ranges are the more flexible interface from the client's perspective, so the fact that you took the time and effort to write an opApply must mean that you want to use it when the client doesn't need that flexibility. As a concrete example, let's say you are iterating over a binary tree. This can be done with ranges, but only with an explicit stack. With opApply, you have control over the call stack and can just use recursion. Therefore, one might want to design two methods of iterating over a tree: An opApply method that uses recursion and a range method that uses an explicit stack but is more flexible for the client.
