On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 23:36:11 UTC, Ramon wrote:
On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 23:22:30 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe
wrote:
On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 22:21:10 UTC, Ramon wrote:
Finally and possibly most importantly, basically not having
fully working debugger support is a very serious lack.
Maybe it is because I write 100% bug free code the first time
every time ( :-) ) but I've found the gdb support, at least on
Linux, to be really pretty good.
I compile with -gc -debug - the "pretend to be C" option is
something I started doing years ago and might not be necessary
anymore, but I've found it to be plenty good enough anyway.
D's bias toward Windows doesn't help either.
If anything, I don't think D goes far enough in its Windows
support. It works well there, sure, even the optlink things
others complain about don't bother me, but there's a lot of
stuff it could easily do and doesn't, at least not without
grabbing additional downloads.
On Linux, dmd works quite excellently, as do gdc and ldc.
-gc? Hmmm ... I'll try that. Thanks for the tip ;)
For the rest: Frankly, I'm not even sure, I should follow that
kind of discussion (like in Manu's thread) anymore. I don't
mean to offend someone but it strikes me as ... uhm ... brains
not used at their full power ... when "there is no really
properly and fully working IDE" (which is pretty close to a
killer for many) gt thrown in - and seriously - discussed with
stuff like "nenene, in Windows Visual Blah 2010 it worked and
now Intellisense works only with handish settings, nenene".
Even worse, while I'm still hoping for a promising statement by
a heavy-weight like e.g. W. Bright along the line "Yep, we
really, seriously need some working cross platform IDE,
preferably an easy to install one" ... one seems quite happy to
seriously adress nitty-bitties for Windows Whatever 2012 (c)
(tm) $$$.
Maybe perfection must be three, the catholic way, a triplet.
Maybe we need another incarnation of Andrei A. (who brought
great stuff to D) but this third guy bringing good useabilty to
D.
A 'D usability roadmap' defined from within the community would
make things definitively easier and better to follow.
