On 2013-09-18 11:02, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 at 14:35:59 UTC, Namespace wrote:
In fairness, there is some really good stuff being brewed in the
U.S. Sierra Nevada for example (http://www.sierranevada.com/),
and there are some nice micro-breweries that produce quality
stuff that is as good as any of the better German, British, Irish
or Belgian beers/ales.
Or Yuengling. Mainly German-style (although apparently Yuengling does
use corn?), by a German immigrant and his descendants, made in
Pennsylvania and Florida. Roughly the price of Budweiser Shitty Corn
Beer, but actually worth drinking. There's certainly better "bier" out
there, but not at that price point. Can only get it in a few states
though, but luckily Ohio here was added a couple years ago :)
ouch!! this gives me a phantom acid reflux. Yuengling is hardly german/czech
lager/pilsener style but rather appalling. the little flavor it has is mostly
metallic/sour. (disclaimer: last time i tried it was in 2005.)
yes, i do love my beer. being a german who lived several years in the UK and US
(and currently do) i have quite an opinion on this. first thing, i had to give
up the idea of finding german style beers (which is mostly pilsener and
wheats). buying the stuff imported from germany does not work either, at least
not for pilsener, as it is invariably stale and off* (no preservatives!),
making my american friends wonder why we like our beer in the first place. so i
had to think outside the box, try different styles. and indeed there are many
amazing and delicious beers, especially in the US, not so many in the UK though
;) so i am quite happy now drinking IPAs** in the US and pilsener in germany.
FWIW, american wheats taste very different from german wheats too, they are
citric instead of banana-ry. cannot make my peace with former, but the imported
wheats from germany are usually good, not stale. so i am a happy camper overall.
as for american beers that resemble fresh/authentic german/czech pilsener most, i can
recommend lagunitas pils, victory brewing pils, and to some degree brooklyn lager (sic!
their "pilsner" sucks). but they are not quite there yet. (i suspect none of
them takes the main ingredient seriously enough: water - you don't get far starting with
US tap water).
*quite surprisingly, some folks cannot taste if something is off and don't
mind...
**sierra nevada is just OK. better IPAs are dogfish head 60 minutes IPA and
lagunitas IPA, just to name 2 widely available ones. and of course there are
lots of great local microbrew beers as well.
cheers,
det
