On Wednesday, 13 November 2013 at 02:54:05 UTC, eles wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 November 2013 at 17:59:50 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
Am 12.11.2013 17:10, schrieb eles:
On Tuesday, 12 November 2013 at 15:35:48 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 November 2013 at 15:27:36 UTC, bearophile
wrote:
Ali Çehreli:
Sometimes I have feeling language researchers live in some
strange
imaginary world and never actually check how their
Lambda the Ultimate and Javaland.
Well, in defence of Javaland, it is a consequence how easy it
I hesitated to add Javaland to the list, exactly because of
that. I believe it was successful because, first, was designed
*by a company* (just like C# is) and, second, because it was
mostly like C++ but with increased verbosity (and that means
less cryptic and easier to follow a diff).
I am not the first to consider that Java's verbosity is a good
thing for a company. But, I confirm that: in my day-to-day job,
we use C (and some C++). You would be amazed how much our
guidelines lead us towards increased verbosity (names,
annotations/comments, declarations).
Java is popular because it's a general purpose language and an
alternative to c++ with following advantages:
- much better IDE support
- OOP by default, all libraries and frameworks follow it
- rich standard library, so that everyone uses java.lang.String
and it's over, while C/C++ libs still try to reinvent their own
string classes (which often have completely different
interfaces), XML, HTTP etc. built-in to the language
- easy to learn, easy to write (no .h/.cpp madness, no cryptic
template errors, no 10 ways to initialize a variable)
- good performance, slightly behind C/C++ in most cases, way
ahead of Python/Ruby/etc.
- mature GUI frameworks with great RAD tools
and many more.
