On 11/25/13 1:34 AM, deadalnix wrote:
On Monday, 25 November 2013 at 07:38:38 UTC, Jordi Sayol wrote:
As Jonathan M Davis said:
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Several of the main devs (including Walter) have stated that having
std.net.curl on Phobos was a mistake given all of the problems that
we've had with it on Windows and Linux as well, and at least some of
them have expressed a desire for it to be removed. I expect that
there's a good chance that it can and will be removed from Phobos if
brought up for discussion.
Certainly, I think that it's clear that we will not add any further
external dependencies like curl, because curl has proven to be a big
problem. It's very desirable to have bindings and wrappers for C
libraries - but putting them in the standard library when it's not
guaranteed that the appropriate library is on the system by default
has proven to be too problematic, so they should be left to external
projects.
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"std.net.curl" can also be moved from Phobos to Deimos.
Deimos can be rethink, i.e. new build master can add a make building
script on Deimos in order to compile all projects included on it,
generating "libdeimos.a" and "libdeimos.so", documentation, etc.
I have to second this. It has been a major pain to get D to work in some
environment because of the dependency on curl.
The continuing stream of issues associated with curl is puzzling me. We
chose curl _exactly_ because (a) it was available or trivial to install
everywhere, (b) it had accreted through experience a bunch of tricks
that made little sense to rediscover the hard way.
Now it seems curl is failing at least the first premise, so we should
consider various alternatives. First I'd like to gather an understanding
on why we seem to have this problem (far as I understand, the likes of
php and python are doing fine with curl, but maybe I'm wrong). So is
there a short and simple list of issues that anyone can put together?
If we do decide to do away with libcurl, one possible solution would be
to embed its source code within our build. That way we wouldn't break
code that already uses it.
Andrei
