On 1/27/2014 3:23 AM, Manu wrote:

I made an interesting observation recently... D has kind of ruined my
career ;)
Before I started using D a lot, I found C/C++ quite okay as a language. But
after extended time using D, I find C/C++ borderline intolerable, and don't
enjoy writing it at all.
But the tooling built around C/C++ is pretty good, and as such, I find the
tooling while working in D borderline intolerable.

So, before, I generally enjoyed my work, and felt generally productive. Now
days, whenever I do any work in either language, I find one aspect or the
other borderline intolerable, and I have trouble enjoying spending my time
programming for long periods before getting frustrated and going and doing
something else...

I'm quite serious, this is a true realisation of an unconscious behaviour.
D ruined C/C++ for me, but my expectations of C/C++'s tooling still remains
a barrier to my enjoyment of writing D code all time time... I'm fucked!


I had a similar experience a little over ten years back with C/C++ vs Java. I'd been a [relatively] happy C/C++ user, until I tried Java which destroyed my ability to tolerate C++'s import system and OOP. But Java (this was back around v1.2) came with plenty of its own pains, so I became extremely frustrated with programming in general.

Luckily D fixed all that for me (and to a lesser extent, C#, but that was before I got fed up with C#'s near-total lack of metaprogramming and some other things.) The debugger issues don't really bug [heh] me much because I've been in many situations in the past where I didn't have a debugger available, that I've become very comfortable with printf-style debugging, and usually even prefer it. (Not that a good debugger isn't a fantastic thing to have. It certainly is.)

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