On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:02:05 -0400, Walter Bright <newshou...@digitalmars.com> wrote:

On 4/22/2014 11:28 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:12:17 -0400, Walter Bright <newshou...@digitalmars.com>
wrote:

On 4/22/2014 6:18 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 19:02:53 -0400, Walter Bright <newshou...@digitalmars.com>
wrote:
The thing is, with iOS ARC, it cannot be statically guaranteed to be memory
safe.

So?

If you see no value in static guarantees of memory safety, then what can I say?

Seriously, the straw man arguments have to stop.

There is plenty of valuable D code that is not guaranteed memory safe.

Memory safety is not a strawman. It's a critical feature for a modern language, and will become ever more important.

No, a straw man argument is when you imply that I am arguing from a position that is similar to my actual position, but obviously flawed. Then proceed to attack the straw man.

Example:

    A: Sunny days are good.
B: If all days were sunny, we'd never have rain, and without rain, we'd have famine and death.

At no time did I ever say I see no value in static guarantees of memory safety. But I also see value in ref counting for performance and memory purposes in NON memory-safe code.

-Steve

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