On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:23:50 -0400, Andrew Edwards <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 6/16/14, 10:09 PM, Jesse Phillips wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 at 15:37:22 UTC, Andrew Edwards wrote:
Observe the following truths:
1) Issue tricking and resolution are kept separate in our community
2) That which is not visible garners no attention
Your message has not convinced me that the change would address the
issues present.
From what I've seen Bugzilla has integrated well with Github.
Mentioning a bug in a conversation may not get an autolink, but that
doesn't sound like the issue trying to be solved.
The issue I'm trying to solve is to make "issues" more visible to people
who work on them. By putting those issues in the same location where
developers work, they immediately become more visible. Does it solve the
overall problem? No, definitely not! Doing so will not "MAKE" anyone
properly categorize, update, or even look at those issues. But it does
them more and therefore, garners more attention than if it were hidden
away in a separate system.
I don't think this is an issue. All developers looking at bugs and/or pull
requests know that they are two different systems. The two systems are
linked, generally by the post-commit hook on github. Also, these
statements are lacking some basis in evidence. Are there developers who
work on any of our projects who agree with this statement? It's not always
worth looking at who "might" work on it if we do X or Y, as that group of
people often is all talk.
I think the largest issue is the daunting backlog of open bugs in
bugzilla. You can close 100 bugs and still not really make a dent in it.
Bugzilla has recently improved quite a bit. Little things are now much
more pleasant (e.g. keywords now pop up a list of valid keywords instead
of having to click on a separate page to see them).
The argument I'm hearing from the majority (at least those who choose to
respond) is "too much work for minimal gain." My question is too much
work for who? I'm volunteering to do the entire move myself.
I don't think that's the main argument, I think the main argument is that
github issues does not have comparable features, which means we lose data
and/or functions if we switch over. I don't think the fact that both would
be on the same site is enough of a gain to offset that.
-Steve
