On 6/18/2014 12:05 AM, deadalnix wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 June 2014 at 07:02:43 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/17/2014 11:50 PM, deadalnix wrote:
and the fact that @safe is defined backward (ie by listing what is not
allowed and
adding to the list when new holes are discovered

https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&keywords=safe%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=41168&query_format=advanced


Currently, there are zero bugzilla issues tagged with 'safe'. Please file
bugzilla issues for which ones are discovered and tag them!

I don't even know what to answer to that. We are clearly talking past each other
here, and I have no idea how to convey the message in a better way.

1. A long list of problems with @safe has been asserted, but I have not been able to elicit any enumeration of them, so the extent of this problem is completely unknown.

2. The definition of @safe in the spec is asserted to be utterly wrong, but no corrected definition has been proposed.

3. A new approach to designing @safe has been proposed in vague terms, but nothing specific and no offers of help to flesh it out.


From my perspective, it is like bug reports I'd often get for the compiler that consisted solely of:

    "Your compiler doesn't work."

It's just not helpful. There's nothing I can do with that.

Also, D is a collaborative effort. If there's an issue that engages your interest, step up and help out. I simply cannot do everything. This n.g. is full of "you should do this, you should do that" largely directed at me. You guys want things to happen, make them happen!

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