On Thursday, 17 July 2014 at 14:05:02 UTC, Brian Rogoff wrote:
On Thursday, 17 July 2014 at 13:29:18 UTC, John wrote:
If D came without GC, it would have replaced C++ a long time ago!

That's overly optimistic I think, but I believe that the adoption rate would have been far greater for a D without GC, or perhaps with a more GC friendly design, as the GC comes up first or close in every D discussion with prospective adopters.

However, it's way too late to change that now. IMO, the way forward involves removing all or most hidden allocations from the D libraries, making programming sans GC easier (@nogc everywhere, a compiler switch, documentation for how to work around the lack of GC, etc.) and a much better, precise GC as part of the D release. Any spec changes necessary to support precision should be in a fast path.

Yeah. Best avoid GC in the first place. If GC can stop the world for ~250ms, wouldn't it be possible (just an innocent thought) to tell the GC only to work, if it can guarantee to stay below a certain threshold, and do the rest later (or in a parallel thread)?

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