On Tuesday, 12 August 2014 at 11:09:37 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 August 2014 at 09:57:28 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Monday, 11 August 2014 at 20:31:55 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
Am 11.08.2014 19:40, schrieb ketmar via Digitalmars-d:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:23:19 +0100
Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d <[email protected]> wrote:

Google definitely try to push Go :-)
so you mean that Go can't walk on it's own and needs to be constantly pushed by Google so other people will think that it's alive? heh.


Yes, just look to the previous incarnations of Go (Alef, Limbo, Oberon 2).

What is actually happening is the Rails, NodeJS hipsters now found a new toy, just because it has the Google stamp on it.

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Paulo

Try duckduckgo.com. I typed "dlang vs golang". Then do the same in google. The results are worlds apart!

What happens, if one day Google says that they will abandon Go, cos it didn't bring the desired results? Just like companies tend to abandon languages and frameworks at random. Remember Google translate? Java Swing is to be replaced by JavaFX. Now Objective-C is becoming obsolete. There are loads of examples. People flock to technologies backed by big companies, because they think it's safer to do so. But again and again, companies just drop technologies as they see fit. Open source has been more reliable. Most frameworks still exist (think of all the Linux stuff).

I can think of very few successful programming languages in the market without corporate backing.

Even standard ECMA/ANSI/ISO ones, where at a given point in time, corporate languages.

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Paulo

But they didn't remain proprietary languages, they were made publicly available and standardized, kind of "open sourced", to ensure they'd survive. The whole world could use them regardless of the OS or hardware in question. I doubt that Swift for example will be successful on a larger scale, as long as it's bound to Apple devices only.

My point was that it's a common misconception to think that corporate backing (or ownership) will guarantee a) a _good_ language and b) continuity. Apple made Objective-C popular, but is now dropping it. There ain't no guarantee, even if a language is backed by a big corporation.

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