On Saturday, 20 September 2014 at 11:50:28 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:
On Saturday, 20 September 2014 at 09:19:21 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Yeah but implicitly convertible to what? If you convert it to `Throwable` your reference counting facilities are circumvented resulting in dangling exception reference at point where `Throwable` gets caught.

As I said, throw/catch is at its core a moving operation. For classes this isn't important (they are references), but for an RC wrapper it would be, so we could specify that.

Move-constructing from an lvalue in the context of D can be seen as a three-step process:

1) create a temporary, initialize with T.init
2) bit-swap the variable with the temporary
3) destroy the variable

It can be seen that the value that is to be moved (the RC wrapper) must be non-const (only at the head, it may still be tail-const).

Now, any generic RC type that wants to be implicitly convertible to its payload type must do this via borrowing in order to be safe (see my proposal at [1]). Using const-borrowing, we can guarantee that the wrapper will not be thrown (or moved, in general) as long as borrowed references to its payload exist:

    struct RC(T) {
        // ...
        T _payload;
        scope!(const this) borrow() {
            return _payload;
        }
        alias borrow this;
    }

This already solves avoiding dangling references to the exception: No references can be left behind when the exception is thrown, and the wrapper will not be destroyed, but moved, thus not releasing the exception's memory.

The second part is really "just" some way to transport the wrapper via the exception mechanism, including support for catching wrappers of derived exception types.


Special casing catching such wrappers to still preserve original ref-counted type while pretending to be Throwable at call site sounds like a terrible hack, much worse than any sort of ARC complexity.

IMO it would only a hack _if_ they were indeed special cased. I'm sure we can find a more generic mechanism that would allow this to be implemented cleanly. Note that the other requirements I described above (borrowing, move semantics) are also things that just happen to be usable here: they are desirable in general, exceptions are just one possible application.

[1] http://wiki.dlang.org/User:Schuetzm/scope

The mechanism might simply be to allow anything to be thrown that
a) supports moving, e.g. provides a method `release()` that returns a unique expression (this requires moving and uniqueness to be specified first, which is a good idea anyway), and
b) is implicitly convertible to Throwable.

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