On Sunday, 21 September 2014 at 18:09:26 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 9/21/14, 8:29 AM, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:15:29 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d <[email protected]>
wrote:

alias Int1 = Typedef!(int, "a.Int1");
alias Int2 = Typedef!(int, "b.Int2");
ah, now that's cool. module system? wut? screw it, we have time-proven
manual prefixing!

Use __MODULE__. -- Andrei


Yes, but you're advocating a hack. The original premise does seem to be correct: library Typedefs are fundamentally broken. The semantics of templates does not match what one expects from a typedef: ie, declaring a new, unique type.

If you have to pass __MODULE__ in, it's not really a library solution. The user code needs to pass in a nasty implementation detail in order to get a unique type.

And it does seem to me, that because it isn't possible to do a proper library typedef, you've attempted to redefine what a Typedef is supposed to do. And sure, it you remove the requirement to create a unique type, Typedef isn't broken. But then it isn't very useful, either. You can't, for example, use it to define the various Windows HANDLEs (HMENU, etc), which was one of the most successful use cases for D1's typedef.


Having said that, though, the success of 'alias this' does raise some interesting questions about how useful the concept of a typedef is. Certainly it's much less useful than when Typedef was created.

My feeling is that almost every time when you want to create a new type from an existing one, you actually want to restrict the operations which can be performed on it. (Eg if you have typedef money = double; then money*money doesn't make much sense). For most typedefs I think you're better off with 'alias this'.

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