On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 09:18:19 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 08:30:46 UTC, Jonathan Marler
wrote:
People are very quick to respond to posts without fully
reading them and the meat of the content gets lost in a slew
of responses that miss the point. I'm not sure what I'm doing
wrong or how this can be improved. But this pattern seems to
keep happening no matter what topic is discussed. Not sure
how to solve this...I'll think on this tomorrow.
Isn't it more that one or two individuals don't get your point
and keep arguing while the others got it?
Anyway, the discussions on the rust dev list appears to be more
educated than on the D forums, so maybe the people with a
theoretical background gave up on D and was piqued by the
potential given by linear typing? I think so... but they might
get fed up with it eventually and in the mean time D has the
opportunity to get the semantics right...
From a political perspective it is better to leave the syntax
as it is until the semantics of the language are frozen. If you
keep changing the syntax then people will eventually be fed up
with changes and it might be more difficult to push through a
full redesign... Which in my opinion is needed.
It is better to stay 25% flawed then eventually clean it up so
that it is only 5% flawed, than to go from 25% bad to 20% bad
to 15% and then people get fed up with changes and it is frozen
at 15% flawed.
The problem in the D community is that there is no planning.
Syntax clean up should be a workgroup effort, not a metamorphic
mutation process.
Interesting points. Thanks for the response, it's a relief to
hear people making sense :)