On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 13:30:39 UTC, Zach the Mystic wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 08:59:11 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 00:37:05 UTC, Zach the Mystic wrote:
I'm sure many inc/dec can still be removed.

Do you agree or disagree with what I said? I can't tell.

Yes, but I think this is overly conservative.

I'm arguing a rather liberal position: that only in a very exceptional case do you need to protect a variable for the duration of a function. For the most part, it's not necessary. What am I conserving?

I let the night go over that one. Here is what I think is the best road forward : - triggering postblit and/or ref count bump/decrease is prohibited on borrowed.
 - Acquiring and releasing ownership does.

Now that we have this, let's get back to the exemple :
class C {
    C c;

// Make ti refconted somehow, doesn't matter. Andrei's proposal for instance.
}

void boom() {
    C c = new C();
    c.c = new C();

    foo(c, c.c);
}

void foo(ref C c1, ref C c2) {
// Here is where things get different. c1 is borrowed, so you can't // do c1.c = null before acquiring c1.c beforehand. That means the // compiler needs to get a local copy of c1.c, bump the refcount
    // to get ownership before executing c1.c = null and decrease
// the refcount. The ownership expire when the function returns
    // so c2 is free when foo returns.
    c1.c = null;
    // c2 is dead.
}

The definition is a bit wonky ATM and most likely needs to be refined, but I think this is the way forward with that issue. It allow elision of a lot of ref increase/decrease by the compiler, which is very important to get refcounting works fast.

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