On Friday, 6 March 2015 at 13:02:05 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
On Friday, 6 March 2015 at 12:30:36 UTC, Paulo  Pinto wrote:
I am hoping mobile applications and application stores bring an end to the non-sense of bending documents into applications.

Yes, the model-view separation could be better for large datasets ( > 5000 items), but you can do it just fine now that hardware/engines are fast enough (by absolute positioning relative to the list view). Once most platforms are fast enough you can get good updates/framerates even if HTML5 is somewhat inefficient for some display strategies. The good thing is that we are really close to that threshold now, and that better refresh rates than 60hz makes no sense.

Or that we get to have the second comeback of XHTML, and finally have something like XAML on the browser, which was XHTML original idea.

I think HTML5 brings very nice semantics to document markup, so you can use XHTML5 if you want. And Shadow-DOM/Polymer with two-way binding (variables and UI-elements are automatically updated when one change) is more like an extensible display-graph than a document, but you can also turn XML-ish/JSON-ish data into a pre-filled form to have a custom editor in a document like fashion.

Quite a few quirks and some boilerplate at the moment, but one can play with it already. I am testing Dart+Polymer+Paper Elements for an Chrome based admin interface right now. I think it is moving in the right direction, although at bit "complicated" without tooling.

When the quirks are ironed out, the tooling certainly will come... Overall, I think it will be easier to use than Cocoa et al, with roughly the same capability, but a lot more ready made components. If Google keeps investing in the tech... The only problem would be that it might be too complicated for avarage web devs without tooling, and that the tooling-devs wait for avarage web devs to pick it up. Catch 22.


I am doing web development alongside native since the .com days, those quirks will never go away as long as the trend of building hack on top of hack continues.

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Paulo

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